Grumpy Git Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Apparently there is a new strain of Covid which is more virulent that the original one! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55308211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Think everyone can forget being moved down a tier before Xmas now, the Government have just played the next ace up their sleeve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Next review 23/12 so we wont be moving now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Grumpy Git said: Apparently there is a new strain of Covid which is more virulent that the original one! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55308211 Covid 20, rubbish sequel no where near as good as Covid 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: Not a shock, all things considered. See @B4ev6is, it's not a conspiracy in favour of London. I am still not convinced but still they had more freedome than any of us put togather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Think everyone can forget being moved down a tier before Xmas now, the Government have just played the next ace up their sleeve... Neither should they be. The NHS are going to be in big trouble in January and February as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: Not a shock, all things considered. See @B4ev6is, it's not a conspiracy in favour of London. Bit weird though that Watford and surrounding area of Herts is Tier 3 but not other areas of the county. Whereas other places like Kent have had blanket rules applied across a whole country, even in one which is more varied in terms of where is rural vs town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Bit weird though that Watford and surrounding area of Herts is Tier 3 but not other areas of the county. Whereas other places like Kent have had blanket rules applied across a whole country, even in one which is more varied in terms of where is rural vs town. Chequers in the Tier 2 area. Can't have Boris cooked-up in no.10 all Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Apparantly there is still a wider review to take place 16/12 so it might still happen for Derby/derbyshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Think everyone can forget being moved down a tier before Xmas now, the Government have just played the next ace up their sleeve... Yep don’t want people on the yellow brick road getting a peep behind the curtain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: I am still not convinced but still they had more freedome than any of us put togather. Not sure what you mean by freedom. We've hardly been under house arrest or a curfew when we've been in Tier 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Chequers in the Tier 2 area. Can't have Boris cooked-up in no.10 all Christmas. Don't want him to be cooked but he certainly needs his feet holding to the fire. There again it is the right time of the year to cook a turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It will be ducking Summer before we have any normality and that's if we are lucky let's face it. I've had enough of this ducking virus tbh. I sympathise with the worst effected but for most it's nothing, nothing except being told what to do and the removal of rights for a prolonged period of time. Also the negative externalities of the measures they are using will cause severe impacts for years, hard decisions have to be made but this isn't right to me. If it wasn't for the Vaccine they'd be trying to save the NHS for the next 3 years while people become skint and loose out on basic rights and their lives in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Interesting opinion here on Johnson following the fringe "science". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/14/herd-immunity-boris-johnson-coronavirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Neither should they be. The NHS are going to be in big trouble in January and February as it is. Are there any figures out there to prove this or is this just your gut feeling? Would be good to know what hospital occupancy is like right now compared to usual years. One MP today said there was one Covid patient in their hospital. Also think it was IDS saying the NHS are under no more pressure than normal (would have to check this though as got distracted when he was speaking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Are there any figures out there to prove this or is this just your gut feeling? Would be good to know what hospital occupancy is like right now compared to usual years. One MP today said there was one Covid patient in their hospital. Also think it was IDS saying the NHS are under no more pressure than normal (would have to check this though as got distracted when he was speaking). Gut feeling based upon the fact that I've not been wrong yet. Bloody science, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Eddie said: Gut feeling based upon the fact that I've not been wrong yet. Bloody science, eh? Three hospitals in Wales are operating at or near their maximum capacity while at the same time suffering staff shortages. The three hospitals are all at what is known as “CritCon status 3B” - Critcon 3 means they are at full stretch with critical care expanding into the other areas of the hospital and routine procedures being suspended. The B highlights that staffing levels are down. If a hospital reaches Critcon 4, resources are being overwhelmed, which opens up the prospect of staff having to choose which critically ill patients to treat. A Welsh government spokesperson said: “We currently have three hospitals at CritCon status 3B. However, this is reviewed regularly and can change on a daily basis.” The CritCon system is designed to represent the level of “stress” in the system, and any deviation required from usual practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Three hospitals in Wales are operating at or near their maximum capacity while at the same time suffering staff shortages. The three hospitals are all at what is known as “CritCon status 3B” - Critcon 3 means they are at full stretch with critical care expanding into the other areas of the hospital and routine procedures being suspended. The B highlights that staffing levels are down. If a hospital reaches Critcon 4, resources are being overwhelmed, which opens up the prospect of staff having to choose which critically ill patients to treat. A Welsh government spokesperson said: “We currently have three hospitals at CritCon status 3B. However, this is reviewed regularly and can change on a daily basis.” The CritCon system is designed to represent the level of “stress” in the system, and any deviation required from usual practice. What do they normally operate at this time of year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Not sure what you mean by freedom. We've hardly been under house arrest or a curfew when we've been in Tier 3. Your pubs be allowed stay London clubs can fans back in Your cinemas could remain open Theathers been allowed to open That's sounds more freedoms that were been allowed to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, B4ev6is said: Your pubs be allowed stay London clubs can fans back in Your cinemas could remain open Theathers been allowed to open That's sounds more freedoms that were been allowed to have. That's not freedom though. You can watch Netflix, drink quality beer at home that's far superior than the disco fizz being served up at Spoons. And only some supporters are being let back into grounds. My point is that there are other things that people can be doing - walking, running, the great outdoors, going shopping and so on. It's what you make of the current situation unfortunately. But we still have a lot of choices of things that we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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