Comrade 86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Andicis said: Nobody gave Mac any of the same excuses Cocu is getting. It wasn't Mac's team, he hadn't enough time to do what he wanted, yet he was still preemptively sacked. Double standards between the way the two have been treated is massive. Treated by whom? The club or the fans? If the former, well we don't know yet whether Cocu will make the cut, if it's the latter, well I beg to differ. Mac is by far and away the most fondly remembered manager of the last decade at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Treated by whom? The club or the fans? If the former, well we don't know yet whether Cocu will make the cut, if it's the latter, well I beg to differ. Mac is by far and away the most fondly remembered manager of the last decade at least. The club, but in some respects the fan base. Mac 2 was given far more stick than he deserved, when he took the club from a bad position and steadied the ship, only to get fired to make way for Snakey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Andicis said: The club, but in some respects the fan base. Mac 2 was given far more stick than he deserved, when he took the club from a bad position and steadied the ship, only to get fired to make way for Snakey. And you think that Cocu is not getting his fair share? I disagree I'm afraid, but then you already know that. The difference in thinking here is that I don't think EITHER deserve stick but hey, just my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Jourdan said: Where did the guy playing the accordion come from? That's the kind of analysis we come on here for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsRam1999 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 There is 0 logical arguments for getting rid of Cocu. Everyone cries out for stability but at the first sign of a bad run of form wants rid. Grow up, he isn’t getting sacked. Save this post I even wager we are a prem team under him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, LeedsRam1999 said: There is 0 logical arguments for getting rid of Cocu. Everyone cries out for stability but at the first sign of a bad run of form wants rid. Grow up, he isn’t getting sacked. Save this post I even wager we are a prem team under him 24 minutes ago, LeedsRam1999 said: There is 0 logical arguments for getting rid of Cocu. Everyone cries out for stability but at the first sign of a bad run of form wants rid. Grow up, he isn’t getting sacked. Save this post I even wager we are a prem team under him So many fallacies here Clearly not everyone cries out for stability, and remember we have lost the last 2 managers through no fault of the club. Far from being the first sign of a bad run of form, how many times have we won successive games to date with Coco? Having a different opinion to you is no reflection of maturity. It is not a crisis yet but we need to start winning a few games or it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsRam1999 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 hours ago, sunnyhill60 said: So many fallacies here Clearly not everyone cries out for stability, and remember we have lost the last 2 managers through no fault of the club. Far from being the first sign of a bad run of form, how many times have we won successive games to date with Coco? Having a different opinion to you is no reflection of maturity. It is not a crisis yet but we need to start winning a few games or it will be. Look at Daniel Farke at Norwich, He could have taken them down first season. Since you’re so clever, can you tell me where they are now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 At least Cocu's win rate is much improved on his last job where it was 20% I believe. I also think points per game is a far better stat than win rate. For example P5 W1 D0 L4 Pts3 Win rate 20% pts per game 0.6 or P5 W1 D3 L1 Pts6 Win rate 20% pts per game 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, Dethorn said: At least Cocu's win rate is much improved on his last job where it was 20% I believe. I also think points per game is a far better stat than win rate. For example P5 W1 D0 L4 Pts3 Win rate 20% pts per game 0.6 or P5 W1 D3 L1 Pts6 Win rate 20% pts per game 1.2 This is why I don’t like the win rate stat much, it doesn’t tell the full story, especially over a short period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I was a bit young for the Dave Mackay era, saw a little of the Arthur Cox and lots of the Jim Smith but for me, Mac 1 was the most entertaining football. This season has been garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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