Millenniumram Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Is a little odd. Wasn’t said to be injured before either match, only after. Suspect he’s just struggling to quite get fit, and he’s been close both times hence why he wasn’t mentioned before the matches- but there’s always been rumours about his attitude. Hope it’s not rearing it’s head again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: Is a little odd. Wasn’t said to be injured before either match, only after. Suspect he’s just struggling to quite get fit, and he’s been close both times hence why he wasn’t mentioned before the matches- but there’s always been rumours about his attitude. Hope it’s not rearing it’s head again Was reported as injured yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Ramslad1992 said: I’d usually be inclined to agree but imo their value of him is a lot closer to his true worth than what our value of him was. We took the best offer on the table. Simple as that. He was coming off the back of a bad injury, out of form and not in the managers plans. We also don’t know the final figure what we will receive yet as we have a sell on clause. Depending on that percentage we could still receive £10m+ for him. Here’s the thing, when we sell a player the number taken as the (OMG why sell for that) is always the lower number. When we buy a player say Lawrence, the top number which is reported to be after addons is used. I see absolutely no reason to sit here on the internet and be upset over a transfer fee which we have no idea the structure of or the final figure. The loss of Will Hughes, Rowett not seeing him in his plans is different and I can fully understand why people are still upset at that, I was at the time as well. Just this was a couple of years ago now, I’ve moved on. Had we not have sold him when we did, he could have been left on the bench, devalued further, did his ACL in training, become none interested in football, anything. We’re trading in humans here. Still yet to make the England squad like most were predicting, even Mount has had a call up before him. Maybe just maybe, we overrated him, overvalued him, that is a possibility and one worth considering. I’ll leave you with this. Agents talk, if the Will Hughes offer from Watford was accepted, why did no other Premier League club match the offer? Not one. Linked with moves to Liverpool, Barca in his breakthrough seasons, not one. Just Watford. This ridiculous deal, just Watford. For me that speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 Marriott injury news... https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/phillip-cocu-provides-positive-injury-3116254 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Charlie van de Borreltje said: Was reported as injured yesterday Wasn’t reported before the match in the injury update, that’s what’s a little weird. Seems he’s not even been training so there couldn’t have been a chance of him making it, as per the latest report. Oh well. Should be back Thursday if he’s gonna train this week, sounds like Holmes, Forsyth and wisdom may need a match or 2 with the u23s first. With Carson struggling to get fit I wonder if we’ll ever see him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I suspect Jack Marriott has some underlying personal issues . What I don't know or would even like to begin speculating. But there's definitely something not right somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, RiddingsRam said: I suspect Jack Marriott has some underlying personal issues . What I don't know or would even like to begin speculating. But there's definitely something not right somewhere. Personal issues, where has that come from? Is it that hard to believe he’s injured? Are we already doubting Cocu’s honesty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 There are some players who play with a constant underlying niggling injury and get through it using painkillers. Aguero played through a knee injury for 2 years before he had it fixed, Jack may have something similar where he's not quite 100% and they're trying to nip it in the bud in pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Pastinaak said: Still going on about that, seriously need to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, David said: Personal issues, where has that come from? Is it that hard to believe he’s injured? Are we already doubting Cocu’s honesty? Its not come from anywhere as I said suspect . For me he had to many unexplained absences and time out of the team last season. And if he did have personal issues Cocu would hardly broadcast it in public . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, RiddingsRam said: I suspect Jack Marriott has some underlying personal issues . What I don't know or would even like to begin speculating. But there's definitely something not right somewhere. ......and that's not speculating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, RiddingsRam said: Its not come from anywhere as I said suspect . For me he had to many unexplained absences and time out of the team last season. And if he did have personal issues Cocu would hardly broadcast it in public . I don't think they were that unexplained, when he was injured we was told he was injured, when he was on the bench Frank pretty much said he needs to work harder without throwing him completely under the bus. Let's not forget Waghorn was finding the net at the time and Frank had a man crush on Mason Bennett. All it takes is one person to throw out Jack has personal issues on the internet and it catches on, see no reason say it without anything to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, David said: I don't think they were that unexplained, when he was injured we was told he was injured, when he was on the bench Frank pretty much said he needs to work harder without throwing him completely under the bus. Let's not forget Waghorn was finding the net at the time and Frank had a man crush on Mason Bennett. All it takes is one person to throw out Jack has personal issues on the internet and it catches on, see no reason say it without anything to back it up. From little old me's opinion ? I highly doubt that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, RiddingsRam said: From little old me's opinion ? I highly doubt that . Ampadu was seen in Morrison's remember.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 This is why I've stopped giving any credence to rumour. Until a thing appears on the official site, it can be considered probable ********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Wasn’t reported before the match in the injury update, that’s what’s a little weird. Seems he’s not even been training so there couldn’t have been a chance of him making it, as per the latest report. Oh well. Should be back Thursday if he’s gonna train this week, sounds like Holmes, Forsyth and wisdom may need a match or 2 with the u23s first. With Carson struggling to get fit I wonder if we’ll ever see him https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-boss-phillip-cocu-3113908#ICID=Android_DerbyTelegraphNewApp_AppShare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Charlie van de Borreltje said: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-boss-phillip-cocu-3113908#ICID=Android_DerbyTelegraphNewApp_AppShare Yes? That’s exactly what I’m referring to, there’s no mention of Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Yes? That’s exactly what I’m referring to, there’s no mention of Marriott May have failed a late fitness test, and was due to be involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, rynny said: May have failed a late fitness test, and was due to be involved. That’s what I thought but cocus after match interview seemed to indicate he hasn’t been training? In which case you wouldn’t think he was gonna be fit to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Yes? That’s exactly what I’m referring to, there’s no mention of Marriott It's in the article "But the midfielder sat out the game against Bristol City, as did striker Jack Marriott." "Both had 'slight injuries', it was reported." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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