eddie Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, DerbyMark said: Well that's your opinion mate, it's not mine but you've every right to express it in a democracy. You see what worries me is that without a royal family democracy would be even further eroded..as it is we have to be very careful what we say these days. Can't imagine there would be much freedom in a socialist republic, for example. That's a first. Someone suggesting that a parasitic family are an aid to democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyMark Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, eddie said: That's a first. Someone suggesting that a parasitic family are an aid to democracy. Well alright, do away with 'em then... And replace them with what? A president, a dictator?! Tell me.. what's the alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 45 minutes ago, DerbyMark said: Well alright, do away with 'em then... And replace them with what? A president, a dictator?! Tell me.. what's the alternative? maybe we should vote in a king or queen we want! That will be a democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 48 minutes ago, DerbyMark said: Well alright, do away with 'em then... And replace them with what? A president, a dictator?! Tell me.. what's the alternative? Loads of countries seem to manage. Why do people seem to think it's either the Queen or the USA and nothing in between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, DerbyMark said: Well alright, do away with 'em then... And replace them with what? A president, a dictator?! Tell me.. what's the alternative? Yeah that would be fun, anyone in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 20 hours ago, DerbyMark said: I've seen England and Englishness rapidly disappearing before my eyes in the last..oh twenty years or more, and getting worse every bloody year.. Do away with the royal family and what you got left? God help us! Everything you had before...apart from a royal family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: maybe we should vote in a king or queen we want! That will be a democracy Bring on the Royal X Factor. Who gets voted in King Farage, King Trump, King and Queen Beckham or some Z list nobody who get elected because people think it will be funny like the voting for Boaty McBoat Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 03:43, Mafiabob said: ...... hope in my lifetime elitism, establishment and royalty leave our way of life. Everything that's wrong with this country. Being English is helping people picking them up while they are down. Not the other way around. Good luck with that. I think the anti royal sentiment in this country is always basically a protest against the fabulously rich (and therefore influential). You will never get away from the mega-rich. Same in most countries. For example, if you look at the history of the USA, the same surnames keep spinning through. http://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2014/07/08/americas-richest-families-185-clans-with-billion-dollar-fortunes/#514763a7feb0 In Europe, many former ruling royal families are still hanging out, no longer doing head of state type stuff but still fabulously loaded. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2908369/Meet-European-dynasties-make-Queen-look-poor-Wealthiest-royals-revealed-richest-family-isn-t-one-d-expect.html If we had a referendum and decided to get shot of the Royal family I am guessing she would literally 'retire to the country.' I personally do not want to see them go, they are a unique selling point for the UK. And we need all the USPs we can get our hands on right now. Yes, everyone who needs help should be helped - education, housing etc. That is a separate argument concerning priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 If we'd had a presidential election at the same time as the 2014 European Elections, when UKIP got the most votes, then Nigel Farage might be the British President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyMark Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 10:47, Ken Tram said: If we'd had a presidential election at the same time as the 2014 European Elections, when UKIP got the most votes, then Nigel Farage might be the British President. Now we're talking! Nowt wrong with being rich by the way...wish I was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, DerbyMark said: Now we're talking! Nowt wrong with being rich by the way...wish I was! Point to where anyone says that in here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyMark Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Mafiabob said: Point to where anyone says that in here..... No one specifically...I was referring to WhitehorseRam's comment about anti-royal sentiment being a protest against the fabulously rich. What I will point to though is the survey result at the top of this thread...60-40 in favour of keeping the monarchy! As per usual it's the dissenting minority making most of the noise.. Think I'll stick to football in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, DerbyMark said: No one specifically...I was referring to WhitehorseRam's comment about anti-royal sentiment being a protest against the fabulously rich. What I will point to though is the survey result at the top of this thread...60-40 in favour of keeping the monarchy! As per usual it's the dissenting minority making most of the noise.. Think I'll stick to football in future. Or presenting alternatives and differing view points. Because someone is in the minority, they should shut up and know their place? Spoken like a true royalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 10:47, Ken Tram said: If we'd had a presidential election at the same time as the 2014 European Elections, when UKIP got the most votes, then Nigel Farage might be the British President. That's a vote for sausagetocide from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, DerbyMark said: No one specifically...I was referring to WhitehorseRam's comment about anti-royal sentiment being a protest against the fabulously rich. What I will point to though is the survey result at the top of this thread...60-40 in favour of keeping the monarchy! As per usual it's the dissenting minority making most of the noise.. Think I'll stick to football in future. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyMark Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Or presenting alternatives and differing view points. Because someone is in the minority, they should shut up and know their place? Spoken like a true royalist. Ha!.. No I'm not saying that.. seems I'm in a minority here for a start..lol I'm not even that much of a royalist ffs I just believe this country is better with them than without them...is that alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I love the Royals, they are lovely looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I am not particularly royalist and have little time for the Queen. However, if she abdicated instead of hanging on in there unable to fulfil all her commitments because of her age, I would think that the country would benefit hugely from Charles stepping up to be King. I like his compassionate nature which this country is hugely in need of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 16:33, LesterRam said: I love the Royals, they are lovely looking Just an observation - I always think this is an interesting element about the Royals - the way that everyone thinks it is fair game to fearlessly take the p**s quite personally out of them in ways you wouldn't any other members of the super rich. If you did the above picture treatment for, say, the owner of a big football club, I am guessing there might be some legal upshot (If he thought you were poking fun at his grandchild), and the mods on here would probably get sweaty-palmed. Also questioning the parentage of some royals - would you do that if it was the son of an oligarch? Maybe it shows how we feel we 'own' the royal family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 01:02, DerbyMark said: Do away with the royal family and what you got left? A new Heath spa resort at Sandringham, a castle themed hotel in Windsor and the worlds biggest Wetherspoons at Buckingham Palace. Balmoral? Nah, leave it, it's in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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