G STAR RAM Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, McLovin said: Because there really is not a lot to expand on it. Certain players not giving their all for certain managers. Snakes was the wrong term to use but if certain players aren't always trying their hardest and are causing disruption if you like in the dressing room, the manager shouldn't be blamed, especially if it's been a reoccurring theme! The good thing is that Mel has now given Pearson the power to gradually weed out those who he believes are not suitable. I really don't blame you for not believing me because you and other users don't, hence the sarcastic replies at the start of this thread. I wouldn't trust what anyone else says on this forum apart from a select few. I'm only passing on what I was told and the Burton game confirmed this individual's points all is not dandy lions and roses! Its nothing to do with if I believe you or not. I don't know you from Adam but know you post on here regularly enough to know you take a serious interest in DCFC. The only thing that concerns me is that if we have only got rid of 2 players that could have potentially been 'snakes' there are most likely some left and we are in for a lot more Burtonesque performances between now and the next transfer window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 In a group of young men whose ego's are bound to be inflated by having lots of money and attention it's inevitable that horns will lock and clashes occur. It seems obvious that Martin and Pearson do not see eye to eye which I can understand as Chris has poor body language on the pitch and Nigel wants more tempo in the side, hence why he likes Bryson. I don't care who's spat their diamond encrusted dummy out, if Pearson is the boss and has the support of Mel and Sam then the players need to suck it up and earn their wages. Otherwise us fans will soon see who is putting 'a shift in' and let them know- without resorting to the Bradley Johnson style abuse that is. I'll be interested to see how Ince does under Pearson for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Its nothing to do with if I believe you or not. I don't know you from Adam but know you post on here regularly enough to know you take a serious interest in DCFC. The only thing that concerns me is that if we have only got rid of 2 players that could have potentially been 'snakes' there are most likely some left and we are in for a lot more Burtonesque performances between now and the next transfer window! Thanks for the clarification. I doubt that we will see too many Burton performances again this season, if we do lose it won't be because the players haven't given 100%.What the loan move of Martin has done is let the rest of the group know that if they don't pull their weight, they will be out of the door too. They now know that Pearson is not messing around and he has the full support of Sam and Mel behind his decisions,even if they might not necessarily agree with certain decisions. My personal opinion is that previously, a lot of the players knew that they'd be here longer than whoever the manager was but Martin's departure gets rid of that assumption and throws a spanner in the works. They now know they must give absolutely everything in training and abide by his tactics otherwise he won't play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: Thanks for the clarification. I doubt that we will see too many Burton performances again this season, if we do lose it won't be because the players haven't given 100%.What the loan move of Martin has done is let the rest of the group know that if they don't pull their weight, they will be out of the door too. They now know that Pearson is not messing around and he has the full support of Sam and Mel behind his decisions,even if they might not necessarily agree with certain decisions. My personal opinion is that previously, a lot of the players knew that they'd be here longer than whoever the manager was but Martin's departure gets rid of that assumption and throws a spanner in the works. They know they must give absolutely everything in training and abide by his tactics otherwise he won't play them. A very risky tactic to use, offloading the top scorer of the last 3 years to prove a point. I certainly didn't see any less effort in Martin's performance than any other player. I've always seen Martin is a bit of a loner. There does not seem to be much love for him from the other players, probably due to how he conducts himself on the pitch. Hence why I would be surprised if he was a ring leader so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: A very risky tactic to use, offloading the top scorer of the last 3 years to prove a point. I certainly didn't see any less effort in Martin's performance than any other player. I've always seen Martin is a bit of a loner. There does not seem to be much love for him from the other players, probably due to how he conducts himself on the pitch. Hence why I would be surprised if he was a ring leader so to speak. That wasn't the main reason, as SDSR said him and Pearson didn't see eye to eye. I guess that's what happens when you have 2 big egos clash. It happened at Real Madrid too between Ronaldo and Mourinho so it shows it can happen at even the best of clubs.As far as I'm aware Martin did have a lot of friends and influence in the dressing room as seen in the photos at Russell's wedding. Probably doesn't get involved too much now in terms of socialising because he has a few children to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: I did challenge you on it at the time but you ignored it. I have posted it now as the transfer window has now closed so there will not be any other players leaving, that could mean some of the so called 'snakes' remain in the squad. If this thread is unecessary then surely your original post should not have been made? Or maybe you was bored at the time you made it? In fact, looking back you thought the news was that important that you posted about it in a few threads... think your correct mclvin gum chewing indifference bin obvious since last year aledgedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: A very risky tactic to use, offloading the top scorer of the last 3 years to prove a point. I certainly didn't see any less effort in Martin's performance than any other player. I've always seen Martin is a bit of a loner. There does not seem to be much love for him from the other players, probably due to how he conducts himself on the pitch. Hence why I would be surprised if he was a ring leader so to speak. Right, this isn't directly aimed at you, it's just yours was the post that's sort of inspired me to get this off of my chest. But why why why do people think player's demeanour on the pitch correlates to what they're like off the pitch? He's a fairly smart bloke is Martin. He regularly pokes fun at himself for what he's like on the pitch. He's liked! He's out with the squad whenever they have their occasional nights out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 25 minutes ago, McLovin said: What the loan move of Martin has done is let the rest of the group know that if they don't pull their weight, they will be out of the door too... They now know they must give absolutely everything in training and abide by his tactics otherwise he won't play them. Long contracts, they've seen off 3 managers, what's another one! Lol to your amateur psychology I can't wait to see the footballer Blackman has become! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, cannable said: Right, this isn't directly aimed at you, it's just yours was the post that's sort of inspired me to get this off of my chest. But why why why do people think player's demeanour on the pitch correlates to what they're like off the pitch? He's a fairly smart bloke is Martin. He regularly pokes fun at himself for what he's like on the pitch. He's liked! He's out with the squad whenever they have their occasional nights out! If someone at work was always criticising me (arm waving , head shaking) then I can't say they would be top of my Xmas card list. They may always be at the works night out but it doesn't mean that I like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: If someone at work was always criticising me (arm waving , head shaking) then I can't say they would be top of my Xmas card list. They may always be at the works night out but it doesn't mean that I like them! What about your wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 3 hours ago, DCFCArmy said: Martin being a big one Hughes in my opinion will be the beneficial from this, because imo he's easily led and could be taken under a trouble makers wing, I love the fact we've probably got rid of the ring leader and most likely his second in demand which is Grant, funny how those pair have been kicked out the door desperately. I don't think it is any of last seasons signings, I think its a case of someone else coming onto their patch and them kicking off about it. My mate sees a lot of Lee Grant. I'll ask him if he's second in command of the gang. And my other mate knows Martin's wife. So I'm gonna get him to try and get a signed bandana. Gangster ****, baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 48 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: A very risky tactic to use, offloading the top scorer of the last 3 years to prove a point. I certainly didn't see any less effort in Martin's performance than any other player. I've always seen Martin is a bit of a loner. There does not seem to be much love for him from the other players, probably due to how he conducts himself on the pitch. Hence why I would be surprised if he was a ring leader so to speak. I did and I think a lot of other people have seen his lack of effort too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, Cool As Custard said: I did and I think a lot of other people have seen his lack of effort too.... Odd then how effort-wise only Bryson got a gold star from teacher... 2 down another 8 to go?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Can we get the 1884 group to give out a load of tinfoil hats at the next home game instead of flags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 3 hours ago, DCFCArmy said: Martin being a big one Hughes in my opinion will be the beneficial from this, because imo he's easily led and could be taken under a trouble makers wing, I love the fact we've probably got rid of the ring leader and most likely his second in demand which is Grant, funny how those pair have been kicked out the door desperately. I don't think it is any of last seasons signings, I think its a case of someone else coming onto their patch and them kicking off about it. This is one of the funnier ones. Well done on thinking Hughes is easily led from your position in the stands. The rest of your post has equally comical value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 44 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: If someone at work was always criticising me (arm waving , head shaking) then I can't say they would be top of my Xmas card list. They may always be at the works night out but it doesn't mean that I like them! Oh c'mon!! this is football, arm waving, head shaking, eybrow raising means Jack Tish off the field, Thisis getting boring now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Odd then how effort-wise only Bryson got a gold star from teacher... 2 down another 8 to go?! Quite possibly..... I can see at least 5 or 6 members of the current first team squad not being here when next season starts. Not all down to effort and attitude but I think by the time we start 2017/18 our team under NP will look very different Carson, Christie, Baird & Bent - all out of contract at the end of the season. Only Carson and Christie have a chance of extended deals. Ince, Russell, Blackman, Johnson, Butterfield - the jury is still well and truly out if they are going to be NP players. If anyone were to bid for them I can't see him not selling them. Hughes will probably be sold to fund the rebuilding and to give him the chance to play at the highest level if we are not challenging for promotion. Not all will go but the last few days have been the start of the process not the end.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, Cool As Custard said: I did and I think a lot of other people have seen his lack of effort too.... I suspect a lot of people saw balls to Martin that came down from the sky, or pumped long into the corners for him to chase. In the great list of effective passes to Chris Martin, those would be the last two on the list. He simply doesn't suit the way that the current manager wants to play. No big deal, it happens. If Fulham use him correctly they have an excellent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Ram Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, Alpha said: My mate sees a lot of Lee Grant. I'll ask him if he's second in command of the gang. And my other mate knows Martin's wife. So I'm gonna get him to try and get a signed bandana. Gangster ****, baby!! So how come they were BOTH shovelled out the door in equally very odd ways, then? Answers not on a post card please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 19 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Can we get the 1884 group to give out a load of tinfoil hats at the next home game instead of flags? At an evening game with the new floodlights that would be pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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