Ambitious Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 This 'deadwood' that you refer to. Which players are talking about? If we out the entire Derby squad up for sale, I cannot see many clubs offering a deal of cash for any of them with the exception of Hughes, Martin and possibly Hendrick. The rest...I don't think we'd raise 3M collectively for the lot of them. Clubs don't tend to pay fees nowadays and if they do, they're very small. Contracts are bought out, players are released from lengthy contracts and so on. I cannot see Martin staying another season as he has earned his chance to play at a higher level and possibly Hughes if a Premiership club is willing to take a gamble on whether his potential will mean he'll ever become good enough to play at a higher level. I hope we look to our youth and keep the signings to a minimum. Brilliant... I didn't think this thread could get much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 We have a perfectly good player in Ivan Calero but McClaren in his wisdom stuck with Forsyth who's been useless this season. Bennett is capable up front and he's been forgotten about by McClaren too. There have been some players I've been sad to see go over the years, mostly Shackell, Commons, Kincladze, to name a few, but I have absolutely no problem with any of the current squad going elsewhere. As for who to bring in, a whole new defence for starters would be good as there seems to be no communication or common ground between the current line. If Hull City drop I would go for Aluko. Shackell would be a good choice also. Charlie Austin, Rob Green and Gary Hooper may all be available? Look to the academy too, we have some bright young talent there so what's the point in investing in them and nurturing their talents if we never use them, with the exception of Hendrick of course. Jesus H Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Who we sign will be all dependant on who goes out and who the manager is. Wisdom hasnt kicked a ball for WBA for god knows how long. Im sure Wisdom would junp at the chance of coming back here. If Dyche is gaffer and we sell Hughes. Then we would need 8-10 players depending on who goes. GK, RB, LB, CB, CM, Winger x2 and a ST. In that order id go for Marshall, Wisdom, Targett (season long loan or as part of Hughes deal) Shackell, Karacan, Ince, Sako and McCormack. Marshall, Wisdom, Shackell, Ince, McCormack would all command fees. Targett a loan fee unless part of Hughes deal. Karacan is on a free as is Sako. £10 million for Hughes (I actually think we will get more than that) then maybe another £5 million from McClaren compensation and Mel Morris's bank account. So we could have £15-£20 million over the summer. This is all a bit of fun and id be surprised of Derby signed any of them. We will end up signing a whole host of different names that I will probably be more than happy with! But if we had anything close to this line up. Id be very excited..... Marshall, Wisdom, Keogh, Shackell, Targett, Ince, Thorne, Karacan, Sako, Martin, McCormack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 What would your wish list be ambitious? I'd like to see Wisdom, Shackell, Watson and Deli Ali on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Brilliant... I didn't think this thread could get much better. Who exactly do we have in the squad that we could sell for a decent figure for then with the exception of Martin, Hughes and Hendrick? I have said we'd struggle to get 3M for the entire rest of our squad. You seem to think that is amusing. Answer the question. I like a good laugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Take your pick....Championship Contract Expiry Summer 2015 Birmingham – Paul Robinson, Nick Towsend, Nikola Zigic, Jonathan Spector, Colin Doyle, Gavin Gunning, Matt Green, Darren Randolph, Lee Novak, Callum Reilly, Koby Arthur, James Fry, Nat Kelly, Olly Lee, Amari ‘i Bell, Will Packwood, Connal Trueman, Callum Preston, Charlee Adams, David PopaBlackburn – David Raya, Darragh Lenihan, Paul Robinson, Matthew Kilgallon, David Dunn, Marcus Olsson, Josh King, Yann Songo’o, Josh Morris, Ryan Crump, Kellen Daly, Bradley Bauress, Modou Cham, Devarn Green, Dean Rittenberg, David Carson, Sam Jones, Paulo Jorge, Jordan Preston, Sam Lavelle, Jack Doyle, George Pierce, Sam Joel, Hyuga Tanner, Luke Wall, Callum Williams, Connor ThomsonBlackpool – Darren O’Dea, Jeffrey Rentmeister, Peter Clarke, Jamie O’Hara, Tomasz Cywka, Saer Sene, Nathan Delfouneso, Elliot Parish, David Perkins, Nile Ranger, Formose Mendy, Andre Blackman, Jose Cubero, Tom Barkhuizen, Joel Dielna, Steve Davies, Bobby Grant, Gary Mackenzie, Jacob Mellis, Nyron Nosworthy, Francis Zoko, Dominic Telford, Mark WaddingtonBolton – Emile Heskey, Georg Iliev, Eidur Gudjohnsen, Andy Lonergan, Matt Mills, Darren Pratley, Stuart Holden, Adam Bogdan, Marc Tierney, Rob Holding, Niall Maher, Keith Andrews, Jermain Beckford, Tom Eaves, Conor Wilkinson, Quade Taylor, Aaron Knight, Glenn Matthews, Tom Walker, Jamie Thomas, Channing Campbell-YoungBournemouth – Josh Wakefield, Ian Harte, Tommy Elphick, Darryl Flavahan, Benjamin Buchel, Josh McQuoid, Jayden Stockley, Tokelo Rantie, Stephane Zubar, Aristede Bassele, Miles Addison, Joe Partington, Mo Coulibaly, Josh CarmichaelBrentford – Josh Clarke, Tommy Smith, Kevin O’Connor, Betinho, Nick Proschwitz, Alfie Mawson, Emmanuel Oyeleke, Louis Hutton, Jermaine Udumaga, Jack WarburtonBrighton – Aaron Hughes, Casper Ankergren, Kemy Agustien, Craig Mackail-Smith, Inigo Calderon, Jake Forster-Caskey, Lewis Dunk, Shamir Fenelon, Paddy McCourt, Tom Dallison, Vitalijs Masimenko, Jeffery Monakana, Jesse Starkey, Danny Pappoe, George Cole, Dylan Bennett, Josh Smith, Glen Rea, Emil Asmundsson, Jason DavisCardiff – Dane Griffiths, Danny Gabbidon, Nicky Maynard, Joe Ralls, Adedeji Oshilaja, Matt Connolly, Joe Lewis, Jazzi Barnum-Bobb, Danny JohnsonCharlton – Jack Munns, Tobi Sho-Silva, Tal Ben-Haim, Oguchi Onyewu, Chris Eagles, Roger Johnson, Neil Etheridge, Simon Church, Harry Lennon, Harry Osborne, Kadell Daniel, Lawrie Wilson, Joe Pigott, Ayo Obileye, Tareiq Holmes-Dennis, Terrell Thomas, Kieran MonlouisDerby – Lee Naylor, Shaun Barker, John Eustace, Zak Whitbread, Rhys Sharpe, Tom Naylor, Mark O’Brien, Mats Morch, Jonathan Mitchell, Josh Lelan, Jamie Hanson, Luke Hendrie, Kwame Thomas, Jorna Moulton, Charles Vernam, Mo Adams, Eric Behrens, Josh BarnesFulham – Gabor Kiraly, Tim Hoogland, Adil Chihi, Hugo Rodallega, Bryan Ruiz, Josh Passley, Jonathan Buata Mananga, Lyle Della Verde, Josh Smile, Aaron RedfordHuddersfield – Phillip Billing, Ishmael Miller, Sean Scannell, Oscar Gobern, Jake Carroll, Harry Bunn, Duane Holmes, Anthony Gerrard, Martin Paterson, Daniel Carr, Jon Stead, Joe Wilkinson, Joe WrightIpswich – Darren Ambrose, Noel Hunt, Daryl Murphy, David McGoldrick, Stephen Hunt, Paul Anderson, Dean Gerken, Jay Tabb, Elliott Hewitt, Michael Crowe, Jack Marriott, Kyle Hammond, Darren McQueen, Omar Sowunmi, Monty Patterson, Paddy KennyLeeds – Lewis Walters, Stuart Taylor, Rodolph Austin, Aidy White, Chris Dawson, Michael Tonge, Ross Killock, Frank Mulhern Middlesbrough – Ryan Brobbel, Jonathan Woodgate, Dean Whitehead, Grant Leadbitter, Mustapha Carayol, David Atkinson, Jordan Jones, Emmanuel Ledesma, Luke Williams, Adam Jackson, Andre Bennett, Mark Kitchling, Priestley Griffiths, Robbie Tinkler, Jonathan Coleby, Josef Wheatley, Scott McCarthy, Jordan Jowers, Junior Mondal, Callum JohnsonMillwall – Justin Hoyte, Danny Shittu, Ricardo Fuller, Lee Martin, Nadjim Abdou, Carlos Edwards, Stefan Maierhoffer, Angel Martinez, Mark Beevers, Nick Bailey, Magaye Gueye, Martyn Woolford, Jack Powell, Denzel Gerrar, Jake Goodman, Fred Onyedinma, Matt Briggs, Richard Chaplow, Fred Onyedinma, Tom King, Josh Siafa, Alfie PaveyNorwich – Carlos Cuellar, Javier Garrido, Remi Matthews, Cameron McGeehan, Carlton Morris, Reiss Awuah, Ray Grant, Jamie Eaton-Collins, Lewis Byrne-Hewitt, Oliver Cole, Devonte AransibiaNotts Forest – Danny Collins, Dimitar Evtimov, Louis Laing, Dan Harding, Greg Halford, Robert Tesche, Josh Rees, Tyler WalkerReading – Sean Long, Pierce Sweeney, Zat Knight, Adam Federici, Yakubu, Stephen Kelly, Mikkel Andersen, Alex Pearce, Jem Karacan, Jure Travner, Ryan Edwards, Jake Cooper, Jonathan Henly, Dan Lincoln, Craig Tanner, Danny Guthrie, Shane Griffin, Niall Keown, Tarique Fosu, Harry Cardwell, Stuart Moore, Liam Kelly, Robert Dickie, Lewis Collins, Marc Ethelson, Hammad Lawal, Daniel Williams, George Legg, Aleksander Gogic, Noor HusinRotherham – Ben Pringle, Kari Arnason, Craig Morgan, Lee Frecklington, Mark Bradley, Rob Milsom, Scott Loach, Tony Thompson, Danny Rowe, Mat Sadler, Richard BrindleySheff Wed – Rafael Floro, Chris Kirkland, Glenn Loovens, Lewis Buxton, Kamil Zayatte, Chris Maguire, Dejan Kelhar, Jacques Maghoma, Joe Mattock, Kieran Lee, Rhys McCabe, Paul Corry, Matt Young, Joe Wildsmith, Will De Havilland, Ryan Croasdale, Franck Betra, Jack StobbsWatford – Luke O’Nien, Josh Doherty, Jorell Johnson, George Byers, Lloyd Doyley, Heurelho Gomes, Rene Gilmartin, Vujadin Savic, Alex Jakubiak, Harry KyprianouWigan – Jermaine Pennant, Marc-Antoine Fortune, Emmerson Boyce, Ali Al-Habsi, Gaetan Bong, William Kvist, Lee Nicholls, Kim Bo-Kyung, Ryan Jennings, Jordan Flores, Declan Poole, Matthew Hamilton, Louis Robles, Sam CosgroveWolves – Eusebio Bancessi, Tomasz Kuszczak, Kevin Doyle, Bakary Sako, Lee Evans, Ashley Carter, Jake Cassidy, Leon Clarke, Liam McAlinden, Bradley Reid, Sam Ricketts, Zeli Ismail, Ibrahim Keita, Harry Burgoyne, Victor Wagner Pedersen, Anto Breslin, Regan Upton Whole lotta sausage. 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Ramos Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Is anybody else hoping sheffield united come up because if they do i'm sure we could flog a few of our unwanted players to them?! Plus we can sing are you Derby in disguise when they come to the ipro with the amount of former rams they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Byram on a free!!! Watson on a free. Cant see anyone else on that list to be honest.Ild try get ince on a permanent if the price doesnt get out of hand. Failing that Ild love to see us go for prestons Joe Garner!Adam Le Fondre is a good option up front or kenywyne jones. Both second fiddle to martin of course. Most importantly we need a few more defenders, cant think of any quality CB who we could get at this minute... any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Couple of mentions for Rohan Ince here. It could be that a signing of that nature could allow for a tweak in formation to a 4-2-3-1 offering better protection to the back 4. Something like this; GrantShotton, Keogh, new LCB, WarnockThorne, Ince RRussell, Hendrick, new wide playerMartin This assumes that Hughes is sold, although I would prefer it If he wasn't. To me this shows there is not a massive lot wrong and I don't feel changing 7 or 8 of the starting XI will help. The wide player could be Ince, not sure on the LCB.this would leave us the likes of Roos, Christie, Buxton, Albentosa, Lowe, Ward meaning that we would need a mixture of u21 players stepping up and some squad players being brought in.If we can move on Dawkins, Bryson and Forsyth and bring in any money all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamTastic1884 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Anyone know of players in the mould of Martin, Bucko, Eustace & Thorne! Any DCFC academy products to fill in? If not, investment was required in the market to push on this season...We need another martin(intelligence and instinct), a stimac or two(leader and can defend), a wanchope(flair and unpredictability) and an out-and-out goal machine to ease pressure on martin!A big man up front would add depth to compliment Martin, Ward and Russell - Tor Hogne Aaroy or Kevin Vink?Def need a Koller type to add muscle and aerial threat - squad is small in stature, and small in size...Even Iversen any good at the back?Macca's network should find someone in Holland, Spain or Germany surely to bolster us?If we had dipped into the market we would have been nailed on for top two in league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 New keeper- for me Butland(loan) or MarshallNew right back- I see Byram is on a free so maybe him if we can't get WisdomNew centre back- Ben Turner from Cardiff or MangaNew left back- ObitaDefensive midfielder- Ben Watson if Eustace leavesWide player- James Mccleanattacking mid(only if hughes leaves)- Pritchard(loan)Backup striker- Mccormack or le fondre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Couple of mentions for Rohan Ince here. It could be that a signing of that nature could allow for a tweak in formation to a 4-2-3-1 offering better protection to the back 4. Something like this; GrantShotton, Keogh, new LCB, WarnockThorne, Ince RRussell, Hendrick, new wide playerMartin This assumes that Hughes is sold, although I would prefer it If he wasn't. To me this shows there is not a massive lot wrong and I don't feel changing 7 or 8 of the starting XI will help. The wide player could be Ince, not sure on the LCB.this would leave us the likes of Roos, Christie, Buxton, Albentosa, Lowe, Ward meaning that we would need a mixture of u21 players stepping up and some squad players being brought in.If we can move on Dawkins, Bryson and Forsyth and bring in any money all the better.Please not shotton at right back ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Off that list I like Neil Danns and Grant Leadbitter.3 players who have shone in the past and would be good if reviving their careers are Roger Johnson, Darren Pratley and Hugo Rodallega, not really sure how well the last 2 would fit in with our system but maybe we should be looking beyond that because, as we have seen, an inability to move away from the system can be fatal!WTF??!!??Roger Johnson is one of the worst centrehalves going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 New keeper- for me Butland(loan) or MarshallNew right back- I see Byram is on a free so maybe him if we can't get WisdomNew centre back- Ben Turner from Cardiff or MangaNew left back- ObitaDefensive midfielder- Ben Watson if Eustace leavesWide player- James Mccleanattacking mid(only if hughes leaves)- Pritchard(loan)Backup striker- Mccormack or le fondre.Like it. Pritchard on season loan would be a top signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Josh King off that list. Can play centre forward or wide.Pace, power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Adam Bogdan - v good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Adam Bogdan - v goodHim or Federici if we want an upgrade on Granty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 These lists are always absolutely hilarious. Sako, Manga, Marshall? Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 These lists are always absolutely hilarious. Sako, Manga, Marshall? Good griefInit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 All depends on sales and if the board back McClaren/a new coach. I personally think we need at least 6 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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