Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Think you'll find Martin has played in the PL. He was at Norwich, he's played 4 games but wasn't really given a chance. He'd get in a few PL teams now. I imagine a handful of clubs in the PL would love to have him. Did he score PS Martin is great in Derbyshire system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Your logic baffles me. Logic is a strong word for that tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Your logic baffles me. The question was Martin or Hulse and I said I can't chose as both are good but it's an unfair comparison . Get off your high horse I like Martin but I liked Hulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Logic is a strong word for that tripe.**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Did he score PS Martin is great in Derbyshire system. No as I said, he wasn't given a fair chance. Four games in a newly promoted side. That includes sub appearances. I'm glad he didn't get a chance at the PL for Norwich because it's possible he wouldn't be here now if he did get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 No as I said, he wasn't given a fair chance. Four games in a newly promoted side. That includes sub appearances. I'm glad he didn't get a chance at the PL for Norwich because it's possible he wouldn't be here now if he did get the chance.So am i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 You won't know how good Martin is until he plays in Premier League like Hulse pre broken leg. By that logic David Jones and Dean Marney are at least as good as Hughes and Thorne... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 By that logic David Jones and Dean Marney are at least as good as Hughes and Thorne...Did you see Hulse for Sheff U pre broken leg he was very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The question was Martin or Hulse and I said I can't chose as both are good but it's an unfair comparison . Get off your high horse I like Martin but I liked Hulse No high horse at all, but all you had to do was run a comparison - not bring in their experience elsewhere. Miller scored in the Premier League for us, does that make him a better player than Martin? Of course not. Instead of looking at their background, where they've come from and what other people have said, you should just look at a player as a player. Ryan Mason plays for Tottenham most weeks, he's now an England international too. However, in my opinion, he's not as good as Will Hughes. He doesn't have the touch, vision, passing ability...etc but just because he plays in the Premier League for a big club, Hodgson called him up.The division shouldn't matter; a player's ability is his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 No high horse at all, but all you had to do was run a comparison - not bring in their experience elsewhere. Miller scored in the Premier League for us, does that make him a better player than Martin? Of course not. Instead of looking at their background, where they've come from and what other people have said, you should just look at a player as a player. Ryan Mason plays for Tottenham most weeks, he's now an England international too. However, in my opinion, he's not as good as Will Hughes. He doesn't have the touch, vision, passing ability...etc but just because he plays in the Premier League for a big club, Hodgson called him up.The division shouldn't matter; a player's ability is his ability. Some players can't hack it in the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Some players can't hack it in the Prem Some players from the Prem can't hack it in the Championship.A good player is a good player. I think if more people opened their eyes to that rather than the team or background they played for then the England team would have prospered more since the influx of foreign talent to the so called 'top teams' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Some players from the Prem can't hack it in the Championship.A good player is a good player. I think if more people opened their eyes to that rather than the team or background they played for then the England team would have prospered more since the influx of foreign talent to the so called 'top teams' Rickie Lambert was better than Martin arguably in the Championship but struggles at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaave Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Rickie Lambert was better than Martin arguably in the Championship but struggles at Liverpool. The same Rickie Lambert that scored 1 in 3 in the Prem for Southampton? It's really hard to keep up with the point you're making sometimes curtains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Rickie Lambert was better than Martin arguably in the Championship but struggles at Liverpool. Lambert scored 15 goals on his debut season in the Prem, 13 the season after. Just because he doesn't fit the system at Liverpool doesn't change who he is as a player. Why else do you think players go in and out of form? It's a natural phenomenon, as well as difference in styles. Coquelin is doing better at Arsenal than he did for Charlton this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Martin.But I bet Hulse would have loved playing in the current team and would almost certainly look a far better player with the current set up.BY the same token, Martin would probably have looked a donkey in the team as it was back then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Martin is great I like him he's my player of the season .Is he better than Hulse I can't answer to everybody's liking because Martin is adhored at Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Martin. End of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My oranges are better than your apples.Stupid comparisons are stupid.Coming next, a literary question:Who is better, Emily Bronte or Emile Zola? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My oranges are better than your apples.Stupid comparisons are stupid.Coming next, a literary question:Who is better, Emily Bronte or Emile Zola?Bronte... looked better in a skirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Martin all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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