PistoldPete2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 For those who have missed this,very off topic from its main forum http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/201245-ched-evans-rape-conviction-miscarriage-of-justice/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hard to talk about Ched Evans because it gets heated with it being such a vile crime he's accused of. Can fall out with people too easy. But I do wonder how many people who are against him have looked into the details of his case. He's being hunted. And if everyone believes he's a rapist then that's fine. If I thought he was a rapist I'd wish him dead nevermind a miserable career decline. I just wonder how many people "Ched Evans" and "rapist" and that's enough for them. Genuinely wonder. Another part of me thinks that there's confusion in people's mind of what we're judging him on. You know it's like some of the stuff that happens in Ibiza and stuff, he's not on trial for behaving inappropriately. It's rape he's on trial for. I can't get to that conclusion after reading the evidence. The sponsors etc make me laugh. "We believe in the justice system, rehabilitation and second chances but..." Then Jessica Ennis etc "he's shown no remorse or acceptance..." He's appealing it! Should he apologise for raping the girl and then claim he never raped her? Stick to running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nando's stopped offering prizes at Oldham because of their attempted signing... Because they'd obviously never served a convicted criminal chicken ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Exactly right Alpha. He's no saint, he acted irresponsibly and even worse, cheated on his girlfriend in the process. But from what I've read on the case, it is no way rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think the statement he made the other day should have been made sooner. He is not in a position to apologise for what he may have done whilst an appeal is happening. The only thing I am certain he is guilty of is being of shoddy character! The saddest thing is all the hatred, all the threats this has generated from those who believe he is innocent and those who believe he is not. I think the FA needed to come out and say one way or another whether clubs should be allowed to sign him. Not helped by politicians trying to gain the moral high ground through the issue. The problem with twitter and the like is that it makes it far to easy to be an armchair vigilante and everyone these days seems to need to have a say in what happens, whether it makes any difference to their life or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nando's stopped offering prizes at Oldham because of their attempted signing... Because they'd obviously never served a convicted criminal chicken ever before. I hope if Ched ever goes for a meal there they refuse him. I mean they wouldn't allow him to sit in their restaurant would they? Surely not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 He deserves every right to persue the career of his choice, I have no idea why he wants to continue with football. Sure the pay is great but is it worth it to be back in the public eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 He deserves every right to persue the career of his choice, I have no idea why he wants to continue with football. Sure the pay is great but is it worth it to be back in the public eye? He loves football, clearly. Have to respect that. He'll have been in prison dreaming of the day he can get out and get playing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 His father in law has his own.business. Can't he hire Ched and stick him on the phones somewhere, if he's that hard up for some dough? Or better still, get a reality check and find something outside the public eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 so its perfectly OK for his hanger on'rs to hound the girl? He and his cronies started the 'mob rules' attitude, now it is hunting him. Guilty or not the guy is a waste of DNA, if he had an ounce of respect he would not be involved in a situation like that. You need to respect and appreciate that booze stops clear thought and actions. Go to any AA meeting and they will tell you that when drunk you are not capable of logical thought. Let us see what the appeal reveals, rich vs working class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 so its perfectly OK for his hanger on'rs to hound the girl? No, when has anyone ever said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The most ironic thing of this, for me, is the people threatening the Oldham bored with death and rape threats if they do sign Ched Evans. Kinda doesnt make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 No, when has anyone ever said that? go read the court reports, national newspapers, his website, television news. http://www.chedevans.com/ read the vitoral there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Let us see what the appeal reveals, rich vs working class The last bit through me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 go read the court reports, national newspapers, his website, television news. http://www.chedevans.com/ read the vitoral there Except everyone from Ched's camp has repeatedly said to leave the complainant alone. Quote from that very site: "We recognise and acknowledge that in rape cases the anonymity of the victim is a fundamental legal principle that should be upheld and respected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Except everyone from Ched's camp has repeatedly said to leave the complainant alone. Quote from that very site: "We recognise and acknowledge that in rape cases the anonymity of the victim is a fundamental legal principle that should be upheld and respected." his cronies has houndered her to the point she has changed her name 5 times, try other search engine and you will get some reports. He has no respect for anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The last bit through me? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 his cronies has houndered her to the point she has changed her name 5 times, try other search engine and you will get some reports. He has no respect for anybody. Again, who are 'his cronies' and do you have any evidence of this? Yes she has been hounded by Ched supporters, but Ched and his legal team don't approve of this and have never facilitated the abuse she has taken. By your logic, the entire religion of Islam committed the atrocities in France this week. Just because things were done for the sake of Ched doesn't mean he is responsible for it. All he can do is say over and over, as he has done, that the complainant should be left alone. But people don't listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 ? Why is this suddenly about class and money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Again, who are 'his cronies' and do you have any evidence of this? Yes she has been hounded by Ched supporters, but Ched and his legal team don't approve of this and have never facilitated the abuse she has taken. By your logic, the entire religion of Islam committed the atrocities in France this week. Just because things were done for the sake of Ched doesn't mean he is responsible for it. All he can do is say over and over, as he has done, that the complainant should be left alone. But people don't listen. Then they should stop the bullies, if he is innocent he would. Where on GOD'S green earth you relate it to what happened in France......................Clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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