CumbrianRam Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Rarely agree with him butFifa president Sepp Blatter says the away goals rule should be revised as home advantage is less important in the modern game.The rule means that the number of away goals scored is decisive if aggregate scores are level in a two-legged tie."The idea dates back to a time when away games were often an adventure, involving journeys that could be long and arduous and playing conditions would vary considerably," said Blatter."It is time to rethink the system."The rule was first introduced into European competition in the 1965-66 Cup Winners' CupIt was under discussion at a meeting of Europe's top coaches in Nyon in September.Former Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson chaired the meeting and said that better pitches meant away teams could counter-attack more effectively, increasing the possibility of scoring away from home."What is helping is that the state of the pitches, pitches are fantastic nowadays, so coming out of defence with passes is much easier than it was 30 years ago, and you get a better attitude to counter-attack today," said Ferguson.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29561989Get rid of the oudated rule, fact is home advantage is getting weaker and this rule encourages negative play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Not sure how saying 1 goal counts as 2 ever got out the brainstorm session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play? Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play?Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it.I think the clock should stopped, the added time system is open to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play? Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it. I think it should stop.That is how it is done for college teams in the States and works perfectly imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 This feeling is strange.....I agree with Sepp Blatter on something. Away goals rule isn't fantastic. I regularly follow the K-League and last year FC Seoul were in the AFC Champions League Final against Guangzhou Evergrande. The final is contested over 2 legs, Seoul drew the home leg 2-2 and the away leg 1-1. Instead of going to extra time and penalties Guangzhou won on away goals. Even losing in a penalty shoutout would be more preferable to losing a final in which the team were never actually defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 This feeling is strange.....I agree with Sepp Blatter on something. Away goals rule isn't fantastic. I regularly follow the K-League and last year FC Seoul were in the AFC Champions League Final against Guangzhou Evergrande. The final is contested over 2 legs, Seoul drew the home leg 2-2 and the away leg 1-1. Instead of going to extra time and penalties Guangzhou won on away goals. Even losing in a penalty shoutout would be more preferable to losing a final in which the team were never actually defeated. But I remember one specific occasion when I enjoyed it. When we beat Man Utd 1-0 at home unofficial first game, I do believe we were loosing the away leg 4-1 and Man Utd were cruising until something like the 85th minute. Then we scored, and because of the away goal rile, it was suddenly game on. 4-3 on aggregate, and we'd have won on away goals if we scored. Made the last 5 mins very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 But I remember one specific occasion when I enjoyed it. When we beat Man Utd 1-0 at home unofficial first game, I do believe we were loosing the away leg 4-1 and Man Utd were cruising until something like the 85th minute. Then we scored, and because of the away goal rile, it was suddenly game on. 4-3 on aggregate, and we'd have won on away goals if we scored. Made the last 5 mins very exciting. Yeah, I had forgotten about that ocassion.....ok.....new rule.....away goals rule is stupid until it benefits Derby. I'll get my recommendations sent to Blatter immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'm sure i'm missing something here.. I like the away goal rule. Me personally thought it was to combat teams going away from home and defending for the full 90 minutes in hope of taking something in there Home game. This will make them attack away from home instead of parking the bus and makes it more exciting. I thought they already stopped time in added time when people were time wasting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'm sure i'm missing something here.. I like the away goal rule. Me personally thought it was to combat teams going away from home and defending for the full 90 minutes in hope of taking something in there Home game. This will make them attack away from home instead of parking the bus and makes it more exciting. I thought they already stopped time in added time when people were time wasting? But the point is that home advantage no longer means as much as it did. So a team would be foolish to park the bus away from home. Plus the away goals rule arguably allows home teams to park the bus and try to steal it in the away leg, which is worse because the home fans are the majority in that stadium and they have to watch their team play disgusting negative football. Just visit the City Ground if you want to know what that feels like. No home fans deserve that, not even Gumpingham Florests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 You can only cut out time wasting by penalising players at the time. Adding on an extra couple of mins at the end doesn't help the attacking team aa much as they are hampered by the continual stop start nature. Vs millwall, the ref kept holding his watch up as if to say "take as long as you want, i'll add it on at the end". I'd much prefered him to speak to the first timewaster, then book the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 But the point is that home advantage no longer means as much as it did. So a team would be foolish to park the bus away from home. Plus the away goals rule arguably allows home teams to park the bus and try to steal it in the away leg, which is worse because the home fans are the majority in that stadium and they have to watch their team play disgusting negative football. Just visit the City Ground if you want to know what that feels like. No home fans deserve that, not even Gumpingham Florests. I didn't see it that way. I guess the home team will be pressured to play attacking football due to being at home but guess if your manager has sense he'll display attacking qualities away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play? Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it. If the clock stopped every time the ball went out of play, the typical match would last for around two and a half hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I like the rule, adds excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play? Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it. I think you will find 99% of referees would welcome the chance to remove timekeeping from there duties.... Would be a good move as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 If the clock stopped every time the ball went out of play, the typical match would last for around two and a half hours. Think it will turn the other way round, will speed the game up in my opinion, rugby doesn't stop every time ball goes out... Think it would benefit the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 But I remember one specific occasion when I enjoyed it. When we beat Man Utd 1-0 at home unofficial first game, I do believe we were loosing the away leg 4-1 and Man Utd were cruising until something like the 85th minute. Then we scored, and because of the away goal rile, it was suddenly game on. 4-3 on aggregate, and we'd have won on away goals if we scored. Made the last 5 mins very exciting. That was in the League Cup where away goals don't count... The only downside to it I see is that if the scores are level after 180 minutes, then the home team clearly has an advantage in the second leg of playing an extra 30 mins and possibly penalties infront of their own fans. But overall I agree with Sepp Blatter, Chelsea and Jose Mourinho most of all have abused the away goal system to deploy negative game-stopping tactics which makes the specticle terrible to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 That was in the League Cup where away goals don't count... The only downside to it I see is that if the scores are level after 180 minutes, then the home team clearly has an advantage in the second leg of playing an extra 30 mins and possibly penalties infront of their own fans. But overall I agree with Sepp Blatter, Chelsea and Jose Mourinho most of all have abused the away goal system to deploy negative game-stopping tactics which makes the specticle terrible to watch. they do count after extra time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Was thinking about injury time too. Do people like it like it is? Or would it be better if the clock just stopped every time the ball was out of play? Just think the whole time wasting tactic is horrible. I hate it even when we do it. I hate is especially when we do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bepp Splatter can do one for me, I'm sick of his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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