Set-pieces

[Srg]

Bryson was taking them... which was a surprise as Mascarell took great corners in the previous round.

[Mr. P]

I'd rather us have a throw-in than a corner!

[Srg]

I don't know about that, we're truly awful at throw ins too. That one first half was laughable where Forsyth stood there for what seemed like a minute waiting for movement, only to throw it straight to them.

[Gypsy Ram]

I don't know about that, we're truly awful at throw ins too. That one first half was laughable where Forsyth stood there for what seemed like a minute waiting for movement, only to throw it straight to them.

There's only so much you can do to fix the mess Clough has created. 

[Martyn]

There's only so much you can do to fix the mess Clough has created. 

 

That's rediculous!!! How can you blame Clough for the mess we're in now?!?!  This is all Docherty's fault!!

[jagerbob]

Hughes seems to be able to take an alright corner but god knows why Ward is still allowed to take free kicks and corners.

I personally think Hughes takes some of the worst. Especally corners, he doesnt put any pace on the ball so theres no pace for anyone to flick it in with.

You need a bit of pace on your corners

[bcnram]

I personally think Hughes takes some of the worst. Especally corners, he doesnt put any pace on the ball so theres no pace for anyone to flick it in with.

You need a bit of pace on your corners

It's a bit of a 'trade off'. Corners with pace are also much easier to clear your area, bit of variety might be a good idea. Personally, I think the success rate of corners for most teams is fairly low. I would be equally happy if the ball was just passed short and try to pull the defenders out of the area - that is closer to our strength.

[bcnram]

Woo hoo I just did my 2,000 post. You should be honoured that it was answering you Mr Jagerbob 

[jagerbob]

Attacking set pieces in particular has been our weakness for seasons and seasons.

Infact when was the last time we had a large team in terms of height and physicality.

I cant ever remember one!

 

Id also say its quite a skill losing your marker and attacking the ball from a corner.

i dont think Shawn Barker or Keogh have ever been any good. At first a shorter bucko seemed to be slightly better.

And the few games keane played on loan showed he was better in this department than anything we had.

[BennettDCFC]

Wonder what Ibe delivery is like? He can hit a ball well with power and whip as seen with his goal and when he hit the bar against reading!  

[bcnram]

Balls whipped in all the time are so easy to defend against. With the passing ability in the Derby team most of the corners should be seen as an opportunity to keep possession rather than just slinging a ball in to be headed away. The stats regarding corners/goals are not great for any team.

[CheltenhamRam]

Without checking... Are we up there for least goals scored from corners last year?

[Bris Vegas]

Without checking... Are we up there for least goals scored from corners last year?

 

I remember a few goals from corners. Martin against Charton, Bucko against Wednesday and Keogh against Blackpool spring to mind.

 

But I mentioned this on another thread. Not scoring set pieces is not a weakness if you can make up for it in other areas. Teams like Ipswich and Blackburn thrive on set pieces because that is thier style - their route to goal.

 

We're different, we pass the ball around and looking at the goal stats - we're mor effective in our approach to scoring goals than those teams above.

 

For those complaining - what would you prefer? Abandon our style and bring in some cloggers to score us more set pieces or stick to what we have and score plenty of goals from open play?

 

It's frustrating to concede goals in the manner we do, but that's the nature. As Xavi once put when posed similar stats - we can't help it if we're all small and technical but looking at the goal stats it's clear to see which is the more effective approach.

[AmericanRam]

11 corners today and no real threat from them.  I agree that most of our goals come from open play, but still would like to see these be more threatening.  Alas, does not seem we have a really good taker on these as we need.

[AndyinLiverpool]

If we could score from corners, we'd be unstoppable.

[AmericanRam]

If we could score from corners, we'd be unstoppable.

Agreed.

[May Contain Nuts]

It isn't that we don't have the height. Today we had Christie, Whitbread, Keogh Forsyth, Hendrick, Hughes and Best the pitch, all 6ft plus, and not one of them poses a regular threat

[peakram]

Agree setpieces by far our least effective weapon or non-weapon! Don't feel remotely excited whenever we have one as we just don't seem to possess anyone resembling a specialist. OK Martin hit the post midweek against Bournemouth but his previous goal from a dead ball was against the same team last season and cant remember anyone else scoring at all or delivering a killer cross.

[Uptherams]

This is a case where as a fan I could put in a better ball and organize them better than they are. It is utterly pathetic. Simply not acceptable. They need to do something about it. 

[Guest]

I remember a few goals from corners. Martin against Charton, Bucko against Wednesday and Keogh against Blackpool spring to mind.

 

But I mentioned this on another thread. Not scoring set pieces is not a weakness if you can make up for it in other areas. Teams like Ipswich and Blackburn thrive on set pieces because that is thier style - their route to goal.

 

We're different, we pass the ball around and looking at the goal stats - we're mor effective in our approach to scoring goals than those teams above.

 

For those complaining - what would you prefer? Abandon our style and bring in some cloggers to score us more set pieces or stick to what we have and score plenty of goals from open play?

 

It's frustrating to concede goals in the manner we do, but that's the nature. As Xavi once put when posed similar stats - we can't help it if we're all small and technical but looking at the goal stats it's clear to see which is the more effective approach.

 We heard you the first time. "Good teams should have bad set pieces." You're barking up the wrong tree, brother. Just let it go. I am sure Mac will address this glaring problem, pronto.