t'oldu Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pickering was the Sammon of his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_The_Ram Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think comparing Pickering to Sammon is unfair on the Irishman. With Pickering, the depths were really, really plumbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I heard he's got a powerful Shotton him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You're wasted on here JW you should be in anesthesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InigosLeftPeg Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 He's more of a RWB, I'd prefer to see us spend the money on a versatile CB and a winger. A good player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not a bad player.He is pretty strong on the ball and has some skills.I can see why he wants to go somewhere else to get some playing time but tbh dont see him getting much here.With that being said I would not mind having as a good backup if we can get him on a loan or for cheap but as others have said I would way more prefer getting another winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If Steve Mc wants him that is good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury Street Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Guess you wasn't around to see McClaren as assistant manager here then.. I do like that formation and I've seen a fair few teams adopt to it of late. But it's like everyone says, if it aint broke don't fix it. Would be good as a plan B when teams sit with two banks of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Wasn't us playing 424 last season the Plan B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 His Wikipedia entry (FWIW) suggests that after a promising start, he wasn't a crowds favourite and Pulis had concerns aboot his attitude. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Shotton "...However he had an indifferent run of form after Christmas until the end of the season and he began the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Stoke_City_F.C._season' title="2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 And a link from the newspaper: http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Stoke-City-Shotton-focus-stay-course-success-says/story-17523389-detail/story.html "it's an issue Pulis has addressed after seeing 24-year-old Shotton rise to prominence last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm surprised at how many people seem to think a player with PL experience will just play back-up to Christie. After all, not too long ago, many people didn't seem to think Christie was good enough. For the record, I'm of neither opinion. If he comes in, great. If not, we've still got one good RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If Steve Mc wants him that is good enough for me Very well said! We have one of our best managers since Lord Brian! Sound judge of a player with a good team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think comparing Pickering to Sammon is unfair on the Irishman. With Pickering, the depths were really, really plumbed. Don't tell anyone but bunjaku reminded me of pickering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Ryan Shotton is from Fenton. He won't feel pain. He'll be like Bucko's staffie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip McStudly Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Agree with Derby England Loyal. Why do some fans keep saying we need a striker?? We play 1 up front and currently have 2 centre forwards vying for the one position. McClaren had said that Sammon was one of the 4 options to play wide. We need a winger not a striker. Also we have played 3 games, won 2, drew 1 and not conceded a goal. All of a sudden some people want us to change formation. The formation that served us so well last season. Its not the formation thats the problem. Its the fact that we arent taking our chances. If we werent creating chances then i'd be open to a change of formation. But we are. I'm surprised formation changes aren't used more, especially with teams who have limited options in terms of their squads. If I were the coach of such a team I'd spend all my time on the training pitch drilling the team on how to operate in 3 or 4 different formations until they reach the point that in a game you could give a command and they'd all shuffle round to their new positions but still know exactly what they need to do. Obviously you'd start with your strongest formation but if you're struggling to create chances or coming under the kind of prolonged pressure that you know you might concede then you quickly switch it, the opposition are confused, they're unsure who they should be picking up and it takes time for them to get used to it then when they do you switch it again. When I watch games I see teams coming under pressure and it takes time for their coaching staff to recognise what is going on and then try to come up with a solution for it which tends to be just to make like for like personnel changes so i'd imagine they'd struggle to know what to do with a well disciplined team that kept cycling through formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'm surprised formation changes aren't used more, especially with teams who have limited options in terms of their squads. If I were the coach of such a team I'd spend all my time on the training pitch drilling the team on how to operate in 3 or 4 different formations until they reach the point that in a game you could give a command and they'd all shuffle round to their new positions but still know exactly what they need to do. You need to have the players to do the job though and the coaching staff to pull it off effectively. Nigel never seemed to settle on a formation and sometimes used to switch between 2/3 during a single game... As his coaches weren't good enough the players looked like they didn't know where they were supposed to be playing half the time... Also players like Hendrick who only seem to be able to play one position got a bit lost... Secondly, we DO currently play a couple of formations. Macca quite often takes off our DM and sticks on a striker taking us to effectively a 4-2-4 at times. You could also argue that a 4-3-3 is a naturally flexible formation anyway as it allows you to switch to 4-5-1 if pressed and given chance when pressing the attack more of a 3-4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ryan Shotton is from Fenton. He won't feel pain. He'll be like Bucko's staffie. With a name like Shotton, surprised Forest haven't been after him. Tie a piece of string round his neck, "Spare any change?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 They have just played an interview with Mark Hughes on Radio Derby where he says that he thinks coming to Derby on loan will be a really good move for Ryan - we are a good club and he will be encouraging it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I never knew he was German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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