Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 ...to finish the job.Normally I'd favour some long winded statistical take on how we went last season, how we did under McClaren, how we did under Clough, how we did for late goals, who was most effective in terms of points per game (PPG), goals and assists per 90 (g/90, a/90 respective) and such. But let's just be blunt about this, let's forget the numbers, the analysis, the colourful lines this of season, and just look at where we are right now, and where we were.12 months ago, we came into a season with our major signing being Johnny Russell. John Eustace had joined, to many's confusion, and with some in the camp of "the top six is possible" and many writing off our season as another dour season of Nigel. What transpired went beyond anyone's expectation. We started as a midtable side, with Nigel ultimately falling in the most clich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Cba to read your post but I presume it is excellent as always. Have a like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I stopped reading after to finish the job bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Let's hope you're right Albert. On paper, with no Thorne or Wisdom, and no signings that will walk into the team to replace another player, the first team is weaker than the one that finished the season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Let's hope you're right Albert. On paper, with no Thorne or Wisdom, and no signings that will walk into the team to replace another player, the first team is weaker than the one that finished the season.....This will be a tough season, don't forget that for a second, no matter what happens on opening day, no matter what happens any day. Just remember that this off season the club have done anything and everything we could have ever reasonable expected of them. If we fail this season, it's because we have been outdone, not because we've been run poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 TL DR Derby are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Churchillesque speech , Albert , Bravo .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Let's hope you're right Albert. On paper, with no Thorne or Wisdom, and no signings that will walk into the team to replace another player, the first team is weaker than the one that finished the season..... Said in another thread. It is stronger than the team that started last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I feel we are in good shape as the new season is almost upon us.Are we above and beyond better than last season? I do not feel so,but the squad has improved and I am confident this season will be a long,stress-inducing one that will ultimately lead to the promised land of the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Sadly, despite this turn around under McClaren, we ultimately ended 3rd, despite being clearly top two under his command. We were never 2nd for very long at all. We spent more time at 3rd or 4th than we did at 2nd. "Clearly under his command" is a complete untruth. Inspiring speech though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This will be a tough season, don't forget that for a second, no matter what happens on opening day, no matter what happens any day. Just remember that this off season the club have done anything and everything we could have ever reasonable expected of them. If we fail this season, it's because we have been outdone, not because we've been run poorly. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 We were never 2nd for very long at all. We spent more time at 3rd or 4th than we did at 2nd. "Clearly under his command" is a complete untruth. Inspiring speech though.From the Leeds game until the end of the season (McClaren's first game in charge):1 Leicester: 2.1944444442 Derby County: 2.0277777783 Burnley: 1.9444444444 Brighton and Hove A 1.6388888895 Wigan Athletic 1.6315789476 Queens Park Rangers 1.5405405417 Blackburn Rovers 1.5277777788 Middlesbrough 1.5277777789 Bolton Wanderers 1.510 Ipswich Town 1.511 Bournemouth 1.47222222212 Reading 1.44444444413 Sheffield Wednesday 1.29729729714 Nottingham Forest 1.27777777815 Charlton Athletic 1.21621621616 Leeds United 1.19444444417 Watford 1.16666666718 Huddersfield Town 1.08333333319 Millwall 1.02777777820 Doncaster Rovers 0.94594594621 Barnsley 0.94444444422 Birmingham City 0.94444444423 Yeovil Town 0.88888888924 Blackpool 0.75That's just a raw dump of that table (in points per game from when McClaren took over), but no, we most certainly were top 2 (that's about 4 points over the course of a season by the way) since McClaren came in. The issue was that we started from where we were under Nigel. We'll never know if we'd have done better or worse had McClaren come in earlier, but it is most certainly a fact that we were a very clear second since he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 From the Leeds game until the end of the season (McClaren's first game in charge): 1 Leicester: 2.194444444 2 Derby County: 2.027777778 3 Burnley: 1.944444444 4 Brighton and Hove A 1.638888889 5 Wigan Athletic 1.631578947 6 Queens Park Rangers 1.540540541 7 Blackburn Rovers 1.527777778 8 Middlesbrough 1.527777778 9 Bolton Wanderers 1.5 10 Ipswich Town 1.5 11 Bournemouth 1.472222222 12 Reading 1.444444444 13 Sheffield Wednesday 1.297297297 14 Nottingham Forest 1.277777778 15 Charlton Athletic 1.216216216 16 Leeds United 1.194444444 17 Watford 1.166666667 18 Huddersfield Town 1.083333333 19 Millwall 1.027777778 20 Doncaster Rovers 0.945945946 21 Barnsley 0.944444444 22 Birmingham City 0.944444444 23 Yeovil Town 0.888888889 24 Blackpool 0.75 That's just a raw dump of that table, but no, we most certainly were top 2 (that's about 4 points over the course of a season by the way) since McClaren came in. The issue was that we started from where we were under Nigel. We'll never know if we'd have done better or worse had McClaren come in earlier, but it is most certainly a fact that we were a very clear second since he did. Right, but top two was never in his hands. You make it sound like we were 2nd but we dropped the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Right, but top two was never in his hands. You make it sound like we were 2nd but we dropped the ball. I read it as we were the second best team in the league since McClaren came in. I didn't take that from it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Right, but top two was never in his hands. You make it sound like we were 2nd but we dropped the ball.Sorry if it came across as that. I meant (as posted) that the team was from the point he arrived the second best in the league (as backed by the league table). I will make sure these kinds of point are made more directly in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Some fresh air might do you could tomorrow Albert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 We were 2nd for about 3 days, at the turn of the year after the win at Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 We were 2nd for about 3 days, at the turn of the year after the win at Barnsley. Oddly enough, that was after 23 games, the exact halfway point. Everyone had played everyone once in the league, and we were 2nd. If everyone in the league got exactly the same results against each other again, we'd have gone up automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This will be a tough season, don't forget that for a second, no matter what happens on opening day, no matter what happens any day. Just remember that this off season the club have done anything and everything we could have ever reasonable expected of them. If we fail this season, it's because we have been outdone, not because we've been run poorly. They have not done everything that everyone had expectations of them doing , you can not speak for everyone . Would have liked a couple more class players , but lets see how we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 They have not done everything that everyone had expectations of them doing , you can not speak for everyone .Would have liked a couple more class players , but lets see how we go.the club have done anything and everything we could have ever reasonable expected of them. If we fail this season, it's because we have been outdone, not because we've been run poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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