blackNwhites Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Can't remember feeling as gutted by the result ad I did walking back to the car park today. Hughes was immense today, as was Ward. Thought Bucko had a poor game, sorry to say. Hendrick pales in comparison to his former self. 1-3 up though, should've been 5 or 6. When we attack we look brilliant at times, some of the link up play with Forsyth, Martin, Ward, Bryson and Hughes was brilliant. Great team to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Can't remember feeling as gutted by the result ad I did walking back to the car park today. Thought Bucko had a poor game, sorry to say. ch. Cue a shed load of excuses and cover ups #untouchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon the ram 2009 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Derby throw game away in final minute, England do the same fk it....I'm getting smashed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 All eleven from crosses and corners and dead balls.? Obviously we defend as a team but the defenders need to defend and they are not doing it. defenders don't need to defend the crosses and corners given away by the team, because obviously we shouldn't be giving crosses and corners away. If we don't keep the ball and give cheap ball away from all areas of the pitch, we give the opposition more chances and that is the key to the game. Hence eradicate more, and results improve. How many games of football have you played in your life, where individuals are happy to take the glory, but are nowhere to be seen when it comes to protecting the ball, keeping the ball and turning their opposition to face their own goal. The team keeps the ball to themselves, and the good teams, when they lose it, get it back as quickly as possible and keep it within the team, restricting the opposition to the least opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 defenders don't need to defend the crosses and corners given away by the team, because obviously we shouldn't be giving crosses and corners away. If we don't keep the ball and give cheap ball away from all areas of the pitch, we give the opposition more chances and that is the key to the game. Hence eradicate more, and results improve. How many games of football have you played in your life, where individuals are happy to take the glory, but are nowhere to be seen when it comes to protecting the ball, keeping the ball and turning their opposition to face their own goal. The team keeps the ball to themselves, and the good teams, when they lose it, get it back as quickly as possible and keep it within the team, restricting the opposition to the least opportunities.I agree with this but quality defenders deal with dead balls coming into the box even though as you say the amount they have to deal with should be restricted by taking care of the ball and keeping possession and not giving away silly free kicks as Eustace did today when he was booked for the 9th time. The more a team attacks the more likely they are to be hit on the break but as Mac has said the 2nd goal was a joke because the defense should have dealt with it. The other 2 goals came from rank bad defending in the box . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatgumyoulike Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I believe the away attendances was around 2500. It was pretty infuriating to turn up and be told people can pay on the gate because we'd been repeatedly told we couldn't and thus would have had more numbers had we known. Atmosphere was good from us, truly awful from them. I do wish we spent more time singing Derby songs and less time trying to wind up opposing fans though. Performance wise most of our players were actually very good. Hughes closer to his best than he has been, Ward fantastic Martin very very good, Russell was excellent when he came on. Bamford is an interesting one. He has so much naturally ability but he looks lazy to me. He got an absolute rollicking after the second goal for negating his defensive duties. He actually doesn't do that much in between his goals. Birmingham were obviously lucky but got to ask defensive questions. I don't blame Bucko and Keogh as much as everyone else. We invited pressure through continuous aggressive midfield play. Why we were pushing for a fourth so hard at 3-1 up I do not know. Eustace is the only midfielder with an ounce of defensive ability. They're heaping pressure on the back four at times. The last goal disappointed me because I felt like we could have cleared the ball as it was bouncing around. After seeing the goals again on TV I'm asking questions about Granty again as well. He's so patchy it's unreal. Switches from excellent to scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 not seen it on tv yet but live it looked as though grant could of done better on the 1st goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Win at home and draw away as an objective is nonsense for this team I'm afraid. Win against poor teams and draw against top teams is nearer the objective. That was 2 points dropped not 1 point gained. Birmingham are poor and lacking confidence. However, I don't was us to change the way we play. We frighten teams with our attacking play. In most games we have more chances than the opposition and we will therefore win more than we lose. Keep the faith people. If we beat QPR then 4 points from the 2 games will have been a good return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Enough about the sad draw, (which felt like a loss walking back) Let's discuss how bad Birmingham is as a place to get a decent drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Win at home and draw away as an objective is nonsense for this team I'm afraid. Win against poor teams and draw against top teams is nearer the objective. That was 2 points dropped not 1 point gained. Birmingham are poor and lacking confidence. However, I don't was us to change the way we play. We frighten teams with our attacking play. In most games we have more chances than the opposition and we will therefore win more than we lose. Keep the faith people. If we beat QPR then 4 points from the 2 games will have been a good return.That's a big if I'm finding it hard to get over yesterday's draw which felt like a defeat. We've shipped 5 goals against 2 bottom of the table sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 That's a big if I'm finding it hard to get over yesterday's draw which felt like a defeat. We've shipped 5 goals against 2 bottom of the table sides Ok but we need to get behind the Rams for the QPR game. Sure there need to be a post mortem on the Brum game but we need to put that behind us and roar on the Rams on Monday week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 People are saying our defenders are to blame as we play an attacking style of play, they didn't stop goals under our previous manager who was more defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 People are saying our defenders are to blame as we play an attacking style of play, they didn't stop goals under our previous manager who was more defensive. That's there cover up and there sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 if the boot was on the other foot we'd be buzzin' to come back from 3-1 down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 in all fairness to ward he played well, much needed performance from him after all the stick he's been getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 People are saying our defenders are to blame as we play an attacking style of play, they didn't stop goals under our previous manager who was more defensive. Think they're to blame as much as anyone. But not more. We used to invite pressure under Clough too much. Be a bit fairer if the right people were getting blamed at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It happens.. Overall if you're a good team, you'll win more than you lose. We are a good attacking team, and if we don't go up this season, likely we will next. Makes me laugh when people talk about poor goals to give away. Is there such a thing as a good goal to give away? You will be amazed to learn that most of the goals we score are considered poor goals to give away by the other team! I would like Thorn to have come on. I'm afraid Hendrick is not up to the standard required now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Bluenose version of highlights. Bryson penalty...give me strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Watching that, 1st goal too easy to get the cross in (forsyth and midfielder), free header (Keogh). 2nd who was marking Macheda (Buxton)? Too easy to get shot in (forsyth) 3rd who was marking Macheda again? (Eusatce) Wisdom should have done better at the bear post. Too many standing watching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramchope Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Our first goal: Brilliant by Ward, blistering pace there and good ball in, Bamford was a little lucky with the finish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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