maydrakin Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 haha - is Ramstrust still a "thing"? I've not heard them mentioned in so long I'd forgotten about that I thought they had dissolved, due to complete lack of interest other than one or two self serving individuals. My brother was quite interested in getting involved early on and attended a couple of meetings, but he suggested that it was a closed shop where a group of friends had their agenda and weren't interested in any additional input... unless they had scarce skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 haha - is Ramstrust still a "thing"? I've not heard them mentioned in so long I'd forgotten about that Yep. People leave, people join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If we had 15 million fans around the world like Forest have, all it would take is erm...hold on.... £1 each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The ground belongs to the fans, it is our asset. Owners, managers and players come and go but the fans will always be here. I don't want the board to be able to sell the ground to a developer to build a hotel or something so they can get their money back. It took Brighton years to recover when their unscrupulous board sold The Goldstone Ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 The ground belongs to the fans, it is our asset. Owners, managers and players come and go but the fans will always be here. I don't want the board to be able to sell the ground to a developer to build a hotel or something so they can get their money back. It took Brighton years to recover when their unscrupulous board sold The Goldstone Ground. In which case when are the fans paying off this £15million mortgage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 So is maydrakin in the RT or does Jim Wheeler get all his ideas from here? http://www.ramstrust.org.uk/news/1-latest-news/380-ramstrust-applies-for-pride-park-stadium-and-moor-farm-training-ground-to-be-registered-as-assets-of-community-value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Every time they spend money at the club G Star Ram! Season tickets, programmes, replica kits, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So is maydrakin in the RT or does Jim Wheeler get all his ideas from here? http://www.ramstrust.org.uk/news/1-latest-news/380-ramstrust-applies-for-pride-park-stadium-and-moor-farm-training-ground-to-be-registered-as-assets-of-community-value Does it matter? It is an excellent idea - and kudos to the person who posted it on here in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Every time they spend money at the club G Star Ram! Season tickets, programmes, replica kits, etc. I thought that was for day to day running costs such as wages etc The mortgage has actually had nothing repaid on it as it was interest only. So do we also own the cinema, the bowling alley, the golf course and the local shop? This is quite an empire I'm building up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I thought that was for day to day running costs such as wages etc The mortgage has actually had nothing repaid on it as it was interest only. So do we also own the cinema, the bowling alley, the golf course and the local shop? This is quite an empire I'm building up. If we own the bowling alley, I've got bagsies on running the pro shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Should we be claiming a dividend from all these assets we own? My pub landlord is not going to be happy when I ask for my dividend to be paid in beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Should we be claiming a dividend from all these assets we own? My pub landlord is not going to be happy when I ask for my dividend to be paid in beer. Booooo asset stripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm dreading the day the board turn on us and start asking why we are not investing more money to improve the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Does it matter? It is an excellent idea - and kudos to the person who posted it on here in the first place. Actually I think it does matter. I'm neither pro nor anti the RT. I know quite a few fans who hold them in deep distain, but I've never really figured out why. I've never had anything to do with them, so they have always been a bit of an irrelevance to me. It does seem to me though, that the club would benefit from having a widely recognised and representative supporter group. I applaud both the poster and the Rams Trust for this - it goes a little way wresting football back into the arms of the community and reminds the owners that we're not just customers. However, I also think that if posters are putting stuff on here with an agenda that they should make it clear what they are up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Actually I think it does matter. I'm neither pro nor anti the RT. I know quite a few fans who hold them in deep distain, but I've never really figured out why. I've never had anything to do with them, so they have always been a bit of an irrelevance to me. It does seem to me though, that the club would benefit from having a widely recognised and representative supporter group. I applaud both the poster and the Rams Trust for this - it goes a little way wresting football back into the arms of the community and reminds the owners that we're not just customers. However, I also think that if posters are putting stuff on here with an agenda that they should make it clear what they are up to. I'm not 100% sure whether I agree or disagree with the last bit because 'agenda' might be a bit too strong a word for it - it smacks of political lobbying. Frank Zappa once said "Everyone in this room is wearing a uniform, and don't kid yourselves". (not sure where I'm going with that last bit, but it sounds cool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i apologise for being controversial, but why is pride park that good? its a pig to get to, and away from, in the midle of an industrial estate and car sales area, an identikit mid 90's stadium, ie not that attractive or 'special'. are we that bothered if we go somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i apologise for being controversial, but why is pride park that good? its a pig to get to, and away from, in the midle of an industrial estate and car sales area, an identikit mid 90's stadium, ie not that attractive or 'special'. are we that bothered if we go somewhere else? I hear Northampton is nice this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The ground belongs to the fans, it is our asset. Owners, managers and players come and go but the fans will always be here. I don't want the board to be able to sell the ground to a developer to build a hotel or something so they can get their money back. It took Brighton years to recover when their unscrupulous board sold The Goldstone Ground. Hotel on Pride Park? That's a great idea. Why haven't any of the hotel chains thought of that? I bet you could get 10 hotels on there and still need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i apologise for being controversial, but why is pride park that good? its a pig to get to, and away from, in the midle of an industrial estate and car sales area, an identikit mid 90's stadium, ie not that attractive or 'special'. are we that bothered if we go somewhere else? Depends upon your definition of 'somewhere else'. Although we are 'Derby County', the emphasis is on the first word, although if push came to shove, I could just about handle a move out of the city to somewhere else in Derbyshire. After all, Florist FC play in Nothinghamshire. If someone found it advantageous to them to move the club out of both city and county, then in my book it ceases to be Derby County in anything other than name and I would no longer consider them to be 'my' club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Depends upon your definition of 'somewhere else'. Although we are 'Derby County', the emphasis is on the first word, although if push came to shove, I could just about handle a move out of the city to somewhere else in Derbyshire. After all, Florist FC play in Nothinghamshire. If someone found it advantageous to them to move the club out of both city and county, then in my book it ceases to be Derby County in anything other than name and I would no longer consider them to be 'my' club. Come on though Eddie Rushcliffe is tacked onto the main Nottingham conurbation without any discernable breaks its a 15 minute walk to the main railway station and probably about half a mile away from Nottingham city boundaries itself so you can hardly classify The City Ground as being out in the sticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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