eddie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Ah, so it's the freemasons, is it? Next you'll be telling us that them down the road are the Knights Templar working in conjunction with the Church of Rome - or will it be the Rapture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I never realised that setting up a supporters club could place such a strain on anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton ram aka masonfree Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 let me repeat again mclaren walked out on derby for a fatter pay rise..thats the sort of w-anker we have has manager so get real and support the reinstatement of nigel clough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 not sure what WUM stands for? something stupid no doubt from the fans who know **** all about football No, it's internet parlance for 'wind-up merchant'. Basically the impression that you have given is that you have created an account and are posting just to get a response. NTTAWWT. (which stands for 'not that there's anything wrong with that') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 WOW, just, WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I think I know who you are now, Mr Icke "Son of the Godhead" Are Steve Mac, Sam Rush, Roger Davies and Craig Ramage reptillians from Draco?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 let me repeat again mclaren walked out on derby for a fatter pay rise..thats the sort of w-anker we have has manager so get real and support the reinstatement of nigel clough! and clough walked out on burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just hid a lot of posts. Can we keep it marginally on topic, I like to blabber on as much as the next guy but this was another level - insults, and general wumming aren't acceptable! Keep it civilised Burton Ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 WOW, just, WOW World Of Warcraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 World Of WarcraftWar of Worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 and clough walked out on burton Oh the Irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I agree with the sentiment, but modern scouting is a little more than "He's pretty good, sign him up." You need to look into injury records, attitude, personal circumstances, willingness to move or learn a new language, current wage, valuation of the club, and your valuation of the player, coaching references, as well as lots of other info. It's a metric shittone of information, and most of the time you will want to find out that information without letting the club, or any other club know that you are interested. I think with Clough, and this is not intended as a criticism, quite the opposite, is that he (and his scouting team) tried to play is safe with mainly Scottish and English players. Low risk, low cost. Even the foreign 'gambles' such as Doyle, Gjokaj, and Cwyka were cheap options and therefore very little risk. It's basic, some say it's a little boring, but it worked for Clough. I'm kind of hoping McClaren brigs us a Kazakhstani striker with an unpronounceable name, who happens to bang in 15-20 a season, for a little added excitement factor. Maybe he will be a success, maybe he will be a god-awful flop of a manager. I think it's going to be entertaining finding out. Clough is gone, and he's not coming back. Lets cross our fingers, keep attending games and support what we now have. Yeah, but still - it's not exactly the hardest job in the world being a scout. As I said, put me in any country and watch enough football I will be able to find a couple of players, surely. As long as a player HAS ability, i.e a good first touch, awareness of the ball...etc then how can you possibly get it wrong. Other factors come into it, as you say but all you need to do is research and ask questions - absolute doddle! I'd be ashamed of myself if I couldn't find a better left back than Forsyth in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 People are gonna talk about Nigel Clough - he's now part of DCFC's history, we can't airbrush him out. The divide will always be there, some fans think he did a good job some don't. There is absolutely nowt anyone can do about that, no one on here (who is voiciferous either way) has changed their stance over the last year or two and will not do so in the future. I know, from my own experience of watching and supporting Derby, that he has done a good job in difficult circumstances (to quote Sam Rush). I also know that some fans think the exact opposite. We don't have to agree! It doesn't matter! We all think we are right! ffs! So what you're saying is "Zzzzz"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 let me repeat again mclaren walked out on derby for a fatter pay rise..thats the sort of w-anker we have has manager so get real and support the reinstatement of nigel clough! He left to go to the joint biggest club in the world on big money. You won't find enough people to work for a football club if you don't employ people that do things like that. He went on to help win a European Cup, Championships and domestic trophies. Off the back of that he moved into management. Thanks to that he had great experiences at Boro and Twente. Not to mention England manager. Would any of this of happened if he stuck by Derby? Would his career have been so satisfying and would he have earned as much money to support his family and grandchildren. This is football. Loyalty is rare. I love loyalty. But you have to accept that people want to further themselves. Kris Commons could have played against Jay Tabb and Daryl Murphy and co on Tuesday. He played against Xavi and Iniesta and Neymar. Last year he played against Messi. The only problem I have with Commons is how he insisted he wants to stay. How he went to his boyhood teams rivals when it was a sideways move. But I still quite like him tbh. Igor left, Idiakez left. These players seem to have held affection for Derby since leaving. "Business is business" so they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, but still - it's not exactly the hardest job in the world being a scout. As I said, put me in any country and watch enough football I will be able to find a couple of players, surely. As long as a player HAS ability, i.e a good first touch, awareness of the ball...etc then how can you possibly get it wrong. Other factors come into it, as you say but all you need to do is research and ask questions - absolute doddle! I'd be ashamed of myself if I couldn't find a better left back than Forsyth in all honesty. Please name three realistic players we could sign today instead of Forsyth??? Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's hundreds cus as a left back he's decidedly average at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Ronnie is right, there are no excuses for not beating a poor Leeds team on Saturday. If we do, I'm sure he will acknowledge that McClaren is a step up, if we don't it remains a dubious appointment. The fact remains though, that his first act as for us, was to give a team talk that saw us come back from 3 goals down. It's not conclusive of anything, but it certainly is a positive start. I'm feeling a bit smug with this one right now, although there is a long way to go, McClaren certainly seems to have had a massive positive impact on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Did anyone see the big screen before the game where they showed a clip of McLaren walking into a dressing room and then showed the three second half goals v Ipswich? Colin Gibson is the new Alistair Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think I know who you are now, Mr Icke "Son of the Godhead"[/size] Are Steve Mac, Sam Rush, Roger Davies and Craig Ramage reptillians from Draco?? Has anyone else noticed that in one of the DNA adverts featuring a rams fan.....the fan is Gareth Icke who says his dad played for coventry......i.e. David icke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't think it was a secret, was it.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Has anyone else noticed that in one of the DNA adverts featuring a rams fan.....the fan is Gareth Icke who says his dad played for coventry......i.e. David icke. Gareth posts on here... it's no secret who his father is. I go to matches with him and he's Rams mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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