Pearl Ram Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Ahem. And what's wrong with cleaners? I'm one and work bloody hard too I might add, in a lot of cases a lot harder than pen pushers. Why do others always put people like me down? What, do they think they're somehow better than me or that I'm beneath them? I don't think so. I feel insulted now srg. Don't feel insulted LR, I've worked with his kind before, they could split the atom but couldn't wire a plug. (Furthermore, they were generally unliked by colleagues, a superiority complex isn't one of the nicest traits after all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Well, our cleaners useless. I might divorce her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I just get annoyed when cleaners, bin men or anybody who provides a domestic service are belittled. It gets right on my nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I just get annoyed when cleaners, bin men or anybody who provides a domestic service are belittled. It gets right on my nerves. I agree with this. We can't allow the belittling of cleaners to be swept under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Can we avoid recycling rubbish jokes about bin men. I wouldn't like to see Lady Ram's point go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 slim waist and big tits, I've seen your staff!Where they hiding as the big tits at my work are on some of the guys and some of the customers thinking they know everything about beer "cos I have been drinking it for 20 years" I actually had a chavy customer the other day say his drink was cloudy and when I told him it wasn't asked me if I was blind. The fool was drinking from a frosted glass boy did he feel a tit trying the biggun in front of his girlfriend and being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I just get annoyed when cleaners, bin men or anybody who provides a domestic service are belittled. It gets right on my nerves. I don't think the roles themselves are the problem people have, it's the association with having a low ceiling on earnings. Certain jobs will always be at the lower end of the pay-scale and sadly, having seen how hard my mother works, cleaning is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Oh I can see a lit dustin of puns appearing on this serious thread already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I just get annoyed when cleaners, bin men or anybody who provides a domestic service are belittled. It gets right on my nerves. You missed a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Rang and offered interviews to 3, one cancelled at the last minute and 2 turned up. One was shy which made it difficult as it's retail, you need to be able to talk to anyone like you know them. The other was perfect with one slight concern over tattoos on her arms as we employed someone before with tattoos and some of the older customers made a few comments. She was made aware of this and was totally fine with that so we're giving her a trial she starts Tuesday. Facebook wasn't a bad idea after all, just have to accept that you will get a few strange ones mixed in there. We had a few more which I might post up later if I can get the missus to send them. One was shocking, can't remember what it said exactly but every word but I was text language over 3 or 4 messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 You missed a bit. Ballz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Well, has anyone got any tips for removing skid marks off porcelain? Don't say fookin bakin powder and vinegar either cause that fookin stuff cures everything. Fall out from Hiroshima. Bakin powder and vinegar. Genital warts the size of cauliflowers on your bell end, fookin bakin powder and ******* vinegar!!!!M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Obviously, I'm referring to bell ringing at by local church (for the younger members) it's a term used for the rust, or, oxidisation of the copper and brass alloy that make the bells in the church tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Rum and Iron Brew kicked in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Bit of advice for anyone looking to recruit for their business - Use as much online exposure as possible Facebook is a good place to start as its free, the job centre I believe is also free?, plus websites linke indeed, work circle ect failing that job boards do work Gumtree is cheap like £9 or something I think atm but there are more specialised boards too which obviously cost more money just depends on what kind of person you are looking for really?? On the job seeker side similar thing really essentially whore yourselves out on as many job boards as possible people will find your CV & if its good then I'm sure you will get the call. I'd also set yourself up a profile on a site called linked in its a social media platform for professionals perfect for meeting new contacts within your field & often leads to job opportunities For graduates I'd suggest signing up with companies like Milkround, graduate fasttrack, spencer harrington, Raw talent academy ect ect As for you Daveo I'd have gone with the last one the profile pic looked good! Recruitment sharks look increasingly like the only way to get a job these days. If I were looking I'd still be shopping exclusively in the dwindling market where actual employers can be arsed to recruit themselves. I tried it about 5 years ago (before finding my current job), I couldn't take an interview for a senior technical position with a fresh-faced graduate seriously, even despite his ridiculous job title. I asked for my C.V to be expunged off their database. I didn't want my skills to be traded as a commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 That's an amazing idea, I used to agree with the "DEY TUK OUR JORRRBSSSS" crowd until I watched a BBC documentary "The Day the Immigrants Left". What they did was actually give jobs to people on the dole that were usually done by immigrants. If they did well for the week, they got to keep the job. I think 1 person actually got kept on, 1 other never even turned up and the rest were so lazy and useless it was unreal. On your point about the Polish - they get hired over here because "we" think we are entitled to everything for nothing. In my opinion that is due to the political correctness wrapped in cotton wool state we now live in. I watched that documentary too, disappointingly it succeeded in portraying the media mantra of lazy-arsed good-for-nothings not being able to hold down a job. I wonder if that was the aim of the programme, particularly as it was commissioned by the BBC? Ofcourse if people like Smyth_18 had appeared on the show, ofwhich I am positive this type are in the absolute majority, the show would have demonstrated the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Brits, who are desperate for an opportunity to support themselves. Its about time people started looking at the living and capital movement arrangements of some of this imported labour to stir up a moral question of expectation on our own labour market. Working for a pittance may seem an opportunity when your currency is exchanged and you live in shared accomodation and use shared transport. What investment is then being made to our economy? There is serious debate about people on minimum wage being brought out of tax altogether! So, very little to no tax being paid by the migrant, free healthcare, schooling and other public services, capital leaving the country (to the benefit of the recipient's economy) and a Brit on the dole who may have occupied that position if the employer had paid a "living wage". I am a strong advocate of skilled labour immigration but against importing unskilled labour which serves only to bring down living standards for the majority. Why advertise a job at £7.50 per hour because you can't find people willing to work for less when you've got people banging on your door to work for min. wage? A willingless to work for less or with less rights is not to be seen as a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonRam Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Rang and offered interviews to 3, one cancelled at the last minute and 2 turned up. One was shy which made it difficult as it's retail, you need to be able to talk to anyone like you know them. The other was perfect with one slight concern over tattoos on her arms as we employed someone before with tattoos and some of the older customers made a few comments. She was made aware of this and was totally fine with that so we're giving her a trial she starts Tuesday. Facebook wasn't a bad idea after all, just have to accept that you will get a few strange ones mixed in there. We had a few more which I might post up later if I can get the missus to send them. One was shocking, can't remember what it said exactly but every word but I was text language over 3 or 4 messages. I'll never understand people's aversion to tatoos, I mean it's perfectly acceptable to makes holes in your ears to look better but decorating your skin is tabooed? It makes no sense to me at all, society needs to truck off sometimes and allow for personal autonomy without it's "Oh but what will xxx say or think". /Rant off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I watched that documentary too, disappointingly it succeeded in portraying the media mantra of lazy-arsed good-for-nothings not being able to hold down a job. I wonder if that was the aim of the programme, particularly as it was commissioned by the BBC? Ofcourse if people like Smyth_18 had appeared on the show, ofwhich I am positive this type are in the absolute majority, the show would have demonstrated the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Brits, who are desperate for an opportunity to support themselves. Its about time people started looking at the living and capital movement arrangements of some of this imported labour to stir up a moral question of expectation on our own labour market. Working for a pittance may seem an opportunity when your currency is exchanged and you live in shared accomodation and use shared transport. What investment is then being made to our economy? There is serious debate about people on minimum wage being brought out of tax altogether! So, very little to no tax being paid by the migrant, free healthcare, schooling and other public services, capital leaving the country (to the benefit of the recipient's economy) and a Brit on the dole who may have occupied that position if the employer had paid a "living wage". I am a strong advocate of skilled labour immigration but against importing unskilled labour which serves only to bring down living standards for the majority. Why advertise a job at £7.50 per hour because you can't find people willing to work for less when you've got people banging on your door to work for min. wage? A willingless to work for less or with less rights is not to be seen as a positive. Why don't people from Britain get off their arses and go and find work abroad? It's what I did all those years ago. And I wasn't made to feel unwelcome, I didn't have any problems using the local health service, I didn't see any billboards telling me to go home. It's a big world out there. People ought to go and experience it rather than let their brains rot on the dole here. Volunteer work, fruit picking, anything that helps with their understanding of the human condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Why don't people from Britain get off their arses and go and find work abroad? It's what I did all those years ago. And I wasn't made to feel unwelcome, I didn't have any problems using the local health service, I didn't see any billboards telling me to go home. It's a big world out there. People ought to go and experience it rather than let their brains rot on the dole here. Volunteer work, fruit picking, anything that helps with their understanding of the human condition. Where do you suppose unskilled Brits migrate to to better themselves? You're educated I hazard a guess. The government of the day created this state dependency. Importing cheap labour looks to have been the answer to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Where do you suppose unskilled Brits migrate to to better themselves? You're educated I hazard a guess. The government of the day created this state dependency. Importing cheap labour looks to have been the answer to it... I was unskilled and with a permanent health issue when I went abroad. I'd also had the same number of years in a state school as anyone else. I did several weeks of unpaid work at newspapers in a couple of towns and went to university without A levels as a mature student. I spent several years in subsistence jobs, building experience and qualifications. I made an effort. I didn't make excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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