Chris_Martin

paul, is that you ???

he has 2 goals and 5 assists in 23 matches playing as a CDM most of the time. That's basically a 1 in 3 goal contribution.  Bear in mind he doesn't take set pieces either to help boost those stats. What more do you want?
If your after more goals from midfield, surely it's whoever is playing as the no.10 s responsibility more than it is the CDM.

We actually "hoof it" less than most teams in this division.

paul, is that you ???

He's joint 3rd central mid (DM, CM or AM) in the league for open play key passes - Peterborough's Randall and Charlton's Dobson are top 2. Shooting is his biggest weakness, but he's still joint 16 for open play shots (only 7 shots behind 4th)

there's a difference between most peoples one/two touch football, and warne's one/two touch football (control it, hoof it) 

he has 2 goals and 5 assists in 23 matches playing as a CDM most of the time. That's basically a 1 in 3 goal contribution.  Bear in mind he doesn't take set pieces either to help boost those stats. What more do you want?
If your after more goals from midfield, surely it's whoever is playing as the no.10 s responsibility more than it is the CDM.

he has 2 goals and 5 assists in 23 matches playing as a CDM most of the time. That's basically a 1 in 3 goal contribution.  Bear in mind he doesn't take set pieces either to help boost those stats. What more do you want?
If your after more goals from midfield, surely it's whoever is playing as the no.10 s responsibility more than it is the CDM.

You’ve described the midfield issues well, but the problem is that Warne is happy with the deficiencies! He doesn’t mind the whole opposition team charging through our midfield, so long as the next time we get the ball we hoof it out to the wings. His other plan is to not care much about midfield so long as we get the ball out to the wings. 🙄

Xavi would typically make 80% sideways or backwards passes - and that's not tongue in cheek. 50% of Carrick's would go sideways or backwards

Nyambe??????

Max Bird is our best footballer. End of.

Max Bird is our best footballer. End of.

Max Bird is our best footballer. End of.

Warne said something to this effect, in the promo for the Lincoln game. Along the lines of "Mendez can take a player on 10 times and lose it 3 times, that's fine. Same with Tom, same with Birdy"

So he accepts the limitations of the tactic, and that our front 4 will lose the ball quite a bit, but what is he doing about counter-attacks? In the same interview he laments the lack of control the team often has. Well, yeah. He's not asking those players to retain the ball, and they don't.
 
 

All you have to do is watch the teams we are playing. They seem to control the midfield pretty well!

31Vickers - 5.5
2Wilson - 6
5Bradley - 5
35Nelson - 7
6Cashin - 5.5
20Elder - 7
4Hourihane - 5
23Ward - 3
8Bird - 6
7Barkhuizen - 3
27Blackett-Taylor - 5
16Thompson - 6.5
17Sibley - 5
11Méndez-Laing - 6
9Collins - 3
19John-Jules - 5.5

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Hourihane

I know they're planning in other ways and not solely the academy. I was just using it as an example. Nothing about Warnes signals long term planning at all. He hasn't improved any player (and therefore increased their sale value should we sell). He's churned through the squad and ground them down to playing a regressive, simplistic and short-termist method of playing football. I presume part of this 'future planning' involves attracting talented players here with high sell on potential. What about Warne would attract any player like that to us? How does that help with the long term planning and continuity of the club? Its not that I disagree with Warne in the context of future planning, I think he's actively a hinderance to it. If his short-termism does work and we go up,  I think it will just be one step forward, two back overall. You mention Warne as a representation of robustness and sustainability. He hasn't been either of those things. His transfers aren't sustainable and he's abandoned formations and systems multiple times over the last seasons.   
I disagree that just because something can't be changed, that means you can't express dislike for it. Of course we all want Derby to win every game no matter what. 
 

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Barks

Can someone please tell me what Bird brings to this team?

But the plans and infrastructure being placed doesn't seem to align with what Warne is doing at all, and is arguably hindering it. How is it helpful that a progressive 4-3-3 style is imposed on every level of the academy, but the first team play such backwards football?
I personally don't want to wait 3 years to just see if it works out for Warne. Ask Sheffield Wednesday fans next season if it was worth getting promoted by any means last season. 
 

The 'Klopp style of play' you're suggesting isn't even used by Klopp anymore. It's almost 5 years out of date. He's changed to 3-3-3-1 similar to most top Prem teams. I've seen little evidence Warnes style resembles old Klopp anyway

i actually watch a heck of a lot of football and not just derby. So i am very familiar with the levels required for prem, champ, L1
what would be very short sighted, would be thinking that this brand of football would get us to the prem

They might want to mix it up, but we know what warne will make them do. cross, cross, cross.