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In our current predicament, I'm struggling to believe people would consider Ashley being interested is anything other than good news.

The quote and the laugh imogi ??‍♂️??‍♂️,, lovely people ,NOT

Get a jab, don’t get a jab.
Sup to you, why do we have to convince each other to or not too?
I really don’t care if people don’t get the jab, and if I peg it because I’ve had the jab (I know I will die eventually btw) then there’s more gravy for the lucky ones who didn’t get it.
Life’s for living, I’ve heard there’s a flipping great meteor heading our way anyrode.
 
 

Well a lot like Aguero. Except he isn't dead. And his heart problems have nothing to do with any vaccines. 

No drama but when people are clamouring for more restrictions based on hospital numbers its pretty important to estabish how many people are actually being hospitalised because of Covid

I see now that 40% of patients being recorded as in hospital with Covid are actually primarily being treated for sonething else ? you couldn't make this up!

Jenkins is misleading. How is quoting excess numbers of people dying at home from Non covid causes not misleading? When you don’t also point out that far fewer people are dying in hospitals. So the obvious explanation is that families would rather that a dying relative dies at home surrounded by their families instead of alone in a hospital . Plus they could catch Covid which would really finish them off. 
 
yet instead he just quotes the excess figure. Along with another stat about non covid deaths. Just pure agenda driven misleading guff.

Jamie Jenkins has 50k followers on twitter, would you have heard of him if I hadn't started posting his stats on here?
The media has direct access to everyones house and has been routinely fearmongering for the past couple of years.  During the past month or so since I stumbled across Jamie's twitter, he has corrected numerous Govt ministers, who we are supposed to rely upon and make decisions on our behalf, who constantly got the data wrong and repeat it as fact. 
Who is taking data out of context in a very misleading way?

Pretty much what I said. He’s quoting facts and stats completely out of context and in a very misleading way. 

I looked at his Twitter profile a couple of weeks ago and he was the antithesis of objective.
He's cherry picking data to support his position in the same way as others are on the opposite side. 
I'm just finishing up Rutherford and Fry’s Complete Guide to Absolutely Everything, an absolutely brilliant book that explodes a lot of myths, explains a lot of things that I had no clue about and all done with a lot of humour by scientists.
They explain that data is useless if you don't understand fully how to interpret it (and most people don't) and if you only take the bits that support your belief.
This guy is running around looking for stuff that out of context and in isolation looks like everything you're being told is wrong.
It's not hard to do that and just because he's smart doesn't mean he's objective, or has the scientific training to fully understand what's going on.
The hard part is to look for data that contradicts what you believe.
It's an actual fact that a glass of red wine has medicinal benefits.
It's also an actual fact that alcohol is a carcinogenic poison and those benefits can be gained by eating a few blueberries or walnuts without the downsides.
It's also a fact that he's a statistician and not a scientist.

i bet she feels as silly as the 41-year-old ex-world champion kickboxer who died recently.
46 and certainly doesn't look overweight, although she was unvaccinated. 
California prosecutor who campaigned against vaccine mandates dies of Covid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/06/kelly-ernby-california-prosecutor-dies-covid

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/
They now have 8 months to release the data.
Pfizer are still moaning about not enough employees ? They might have to dip into some of that $30bn or however much it is they have earned in the past couple of years to hire some more people!

I've answered that.  He gives people actual facts, data from Govt websites. 
At the time we were being bombarded with omicron fear porn.  3000-5000 deaths per day blah, blah, blah...  Using Govts own data he pointed out that less than 7% of deaths were with covid and covid admissions to hospitals were 70% less than this time last year.
Any deliberate misleading and fearmingering has been done by the Govt and media.  The media cos it sells and the Govt cos (and lets be generous) that they want to drive up vaccine uptake.  You can argue whether that is morally acceptable or not but I'd prefer actual data and informed choice.

How do you know they didn't all catch it from unvaccinated people?. I know that's not likely but....
(made up numbers for illustration):
If we accept that the vaccine reduces the risk of infecting others (due to lower viral load; lesser symptoms or whatever - doesn't matter how).......
Even if an unvaccinated person infects 10 people and a vaccinated person still infects 9, then the vaccine has stopped one person from being infected. So, as I said, the vaccine does stop people being infected. Just not all of them - which nobody has ever claimed, as far as I have seen.

Those above 60 and with co morbidity s ,
take a look at the stats of who are dying from covid in any great numbers,
I also think mass vaccination is very much likely to produce variants

Boris didn't say it 'stops us from vaccinating others*' he just said it 'stops us from infecting others'.  
*insert whatever caveat.
If we just stick to football, in recent days Brentford (100% vaccinated) and Liverpool (99% vaccinated) have called off matches due to covid outbreaks.  The vaccines don't seem to have 'stopped us from infecting others' there.

You'll have to explain why he is 'quoting accurate data but in a deliberately misleading way.'
Why do you think more people are dying at home?
So if accurately quoting data fuels conspiracy theorists, what does deliberately misleading the public fuel?

Over 91% vaccinated here and an explosion of Covid cases, over a 1000 a day some days.  On January 10 jabbing kids from 5-11 years old is set to begin.  Madness.

Like the Government seeing how far they can push the powers that they are taking without need.
Like the media reaction and how they have been allowed to silence anyone with an alternative opinion. 
Like the mandating of vaccines for NHS workers even though the vaccine neither stops you from contracting or spreading the virus.
Like the implementation of discriminatory vaccine passports despite the above.
Like the Government being able to close businesses and destroy livelihoods.
Just a few off the top of my head.

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

I’m against vaccine passports, mandatory vaccinations and vaccinating children against parent consent. I believe most people are.
Unfortunately you get nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum.

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

Of course. I'm a father too and there was enough to concern me even before Covid.