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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mps-call-efl-apologise-bury-17202257.amp
Committee of mps found "despite being warned about the club's finances and ownership, and having multiple opportunities to intervene, the EFL failed to do so in 'an effectively or timely enough way' to prevent the problems escalating."
MPs demanded that the efl take urgent action be taken to prevent other clubs befalling the same fate.
Among the recommendations made are that the FA, EFL and Premier League establish a supporters’ ombudsman to hear concerns about how clubs are run, and r eform the Owners’ and Directors’ Test to disqualify buyers with a record of corporate insolvency.
They also want clubs to be banned from borrowing against fixed assets such as stadiums.
The committee's chair, Damian Collins, said: “Systematic and structural problems are responsible for the tragic expulsion of Bury FC from the League this year.
"These failures were avoidable, and it is essential that the authorities urgently overhaul their framework if they wish to avoid the same fate befalling other clubs.
Exactly the same is true of the efl with derby.
There had also been calls for an independent football regulator because of a lack of trust in the efl to resolve issues, the independent regulator might happen  now?
I could now discuss the efls failure to defend derby and put an end to wycombe and Boros claims which almost ended derby.
By the efls failure to defend derby, they have opened the possibility of disputes happening against other clubs and in my opinion it shows the powerless nature of the efl.
 
 

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-compensation-claim-7112104
Now at last with ck as the new owner, perhaps we can take legal action against Wycombe for pursuing dcfc with a baseless claim.
 
 

Wycombe fc case against dcfc centred on a timeline, dcfc we were accused of delaying efl requested information returns and thereby wycombe fc were relegated.
The reason it was an empty case is that Derby didn't failure to meet deadlines set by the efl, they might have submitted the information on the last available day or be given an extension by the efl and submitted on the last available day for that.
In any case, they didn't breach the submission dates set by the efl, and as a direct result of which causes wycombe fc to be relegated.
Wycombe fc were wrongly in the Championship in the first place, they didn't get there by winning games, the efl promoted them by ending the league 1 season early due to covid, the season before.
The efl decided to manually calculate who should be promoted and then promoted that team, in this case wycombe fc.
Once in the Championship, wycombe fc were seen to be unfit for a place in the Championship.
Once there they simply were not good enough to warrant a place in the Championship and got relegated.
The wycombe fc owner being a chancer, decided to try and get millions for nothing and made a claim against dcfc.
If dcfc had money they could have taken the claim to court and received a payout worth a lot, as a false claim was made against them.
Wycombe fc like boro, knew they didn't have a valid case and that dcfc couldn't afford to defend itself.
The wycombe fc owner maintained that dcfc cost his club millions through their relegation, but the fault lies with him.
 

Wycombe fc case against dcfc centred on a timeline, dcfc we were accused of delaying efl requested information returns and thereby wycombe fc were relegated.
The reason it was an empty case is that Derby didn't failure to meet deadlines set by the efl, they might have submitted the information on the last available day or be given an extension by the efl and submitted on the last available day for that.
In any case, they didn't breach the submission dates set by the efl, and as a direct result of which causes wycombe fc to be relegated.
Wycombe fc were wrongly in the Championship in the first place, they didn't get there by winning games, the efl promoted them by ending the league 1 season early due to covid, the season before.
The efl decided to manually calculate who should be promoted and then promoted that team, in this case wycombe fc.
Once in the Championship, wycombe fc were seen to be unfit for a place in the Championship.
Once there they simply were not good enough to warrant a place in the Championship and got relegated.
The wycombe fc owner being a chancer, decided to try and get millions for nothing and made a claim against dcfc.
If dcfc had money they could have taken the claim to court and received a payout worth a lot, as a false claim was made against them.
Wycombe fc like boro, knew they didn't have a valid case and that dcfc couldn't afford to defend itself.
The wycombe fc owner maintained that dcfc cost his club millions through their relegation, but the fault lies with him.
 

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-compensation-claim-7112104
Now at last with ck as the new owner, perhaps we can take legal action against Wycombe for pursuing dcfc with a baseless claim.
 
 

An opportunity to cheer on Sunderland fc today as they go to Wembley against Wycombe fc in the play off final.
After what wycombe fc put us through this year, I definitely want to see wycombe battered.
Wycombe fc have been adamant we should have been relegated rather than them, they didn't want to recognise that we weren't relegated last season due to efl rules.
Wycombe fc have mouthed off against to often.
come on sunderland.
Good game to watch.
 

Wycombe fc case against dcfc centred on a timeline, dcfc we were accused of delaying efl requested information returns and thereby wycombe fc were relegated.
The reason it was an empty case is that Derby didn't failure to meet deadlines set by the efl, they might have submitted the information on the last available day or be given an extension by the efl and submitted on the last available day for that.
In any case, they didn't breach the submission dates set by the efl, and as a direct result of which causes wycombe fc to be relegated.
Wycombe fc were wrongly in the Championship in the first place, they didn't get there by winning games, the efl promoted them by ending the league 1 season early due to covid, the season before.
The efl decided to manually calculate who should be promoted and then promoted that team, in this case wycombe fc.
Once in the Championship, wycombe fc were seen to be unfit for a place in the Championship.
Once there they simply were not good enough to warrant a place in the Championship and got relegated.
The wycombe fc owner being a chancer, decided to try and get millions for nothing and made a claim against dcfc.
If dcfc had money they could have taken the claim to court and received a payout worth a lot, as a false claim was made against them.
Wycombe fc like boro, knew they didn't have a valid case and that dcfc couldn't afford to defend itself.
The wycombe fc owner maintained that dcfc cost his club millions through their relegation, but the fault lies with him.
 

Wycombe fc case against dcfc centred on a timeline, dcfc we were accused of delaying efl requested information returns and thereby wycombe fc were relegated.
The reason it was an empty case is that Derby didn't failure to meet deadlines set by the efl, they might have submitted the information on the last available day or be given an extension by the efl and submitted on the last available day for that.
In any case, they didn't breach the submission dates set by the efl, and as a direct result of which causes wycombe fc to be relegated.
Wycombe fc were wrongly in the Championship in the first place, they didn't get there by winning games, the efl promoted them by ending the league 1 season early due to covid, the season before.
The efl decided to manually calculate who should be promoted and then promoted that team, in this case wycombe fc.
Once in the Championship, wycombe fc were seen to be unfit for a place in the Championship.
Once there they simply were not good enough to warrant a place in the Championship and got relegated.
The wycombe fc owner being a chancer, decided to try and get millions for nothing and made a claim against dcfc.
If dcfc had money they could have taken the claim to court and received a payout worth a lot, as a false claim was made against them.
Wycombe fc like boro, knew they didn't have a valid case and that dcfc couldn't afford to defend itself.
The wycombe fc owner maintained that dcfc cost his club millions through their relegation, but the fault lies with him.
 

An opportunity to cheer on Sunderland fc today as they go to Wembley against Wycombe fc in the play off final.
After what wycombe fc put us through this year, I definitely want to see wycombe battered.
Wycombe fc have been adamant we should have been relegated rather than them, they didn't want to recognise that we weren't relegated last season due to efl rules.
Wycombe fc have mouthed off against to often.
come on sunderland.
Good game to watch.
 

Wycombe fc case against dcfc centred on a timeline, dcfc we were accused of delaying efl requested information returns and thereby wycombe fc were relegated.
The reason it was an empty case is that Derby didn't failure to meet deadlines set by the efl, they might have submitted the information on the last available day or be given an extension by the efl and submitted on the last available day for that.
In any case, they didn't breach the submission dates set by the efl, and as a direct result of which causes wycombe fc to be relegated.
Wycombe fc were wrongly in the Championship in the first place, they didn't get there by winning games, the efl promoted them by ending the league 1 season early due to covid, the season before.
The efl decided to manually calculate who should be promoted and then promoted that team, in this case wycombe fc.
Once in the Championship, wycombe fc were seen to be unfit for a place in the Championship.
Once there they simply were not good enough to warrant a place in the Championship and got relegated.
The wycombe fc owner being a chancer, decided to try and get millions for nothing and made a claim against dcfc.
If dcfc had money they could have taken the claim to court and received a payout worth a lot, as a false claim was made against them.
Wycombe fc like boro, knew they didn't have a valid case and that dcfc couldn't afford to defend itself.
The wycombe fc owner maintained that dcfc cost his club millions through their relegation, but the fault lies with him.
 

Knowing which battles are worth fighting, is wisdom.
Making the efl our enemy, when they set the rules of the game is foolhardy.
We are better of leaving this to the politicians, and hopefully there will be an independent regulator.
Other clubs might criticise Derby for recent events, but that doesn't matter, because one day it will be there turn to ask for help and Derby might not be in their corner.
What is coming has to better for the club, than what the club has just been through.
 
 

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written. 
 
 

Everything I've read about the wycombe vs dcfc said that wycombe fc had zero case to answer, but that wycombe fc were chancers.
Wycombe fc will be laughing at us, if they get promoted. A relegated season, and straight back to the Championship.
I definitely want to face wycombe fc and beat them next season, but we can't do that if they are promoted.

An opportunity to cheer on Sunderland fc today as they go to Wembley against Wycombe fc in the play off final.
After what wycombe fc put us through this year, I definitely want to see wycombe battered.
Wycombe fc have been adamant we should have been relegated rather than them, they didn't want to recognise that we weren't relegated last season due to efl rules.
Wycombe fc have mouthed off against to often.
come on sunderland.
Good game to watch.
 

I'm concerned that nothing comes from this, that the efl doesn't change and that no independent regulator is established.
What worried me most about boro and Wycombe is that they took advantage of dcfc because there was no money to defend dcfc and the efl sat back and did nothing.
 

An opportunity to cheer on Sunderland fc today as they go to Wembley against Wycombe fc in the play off final.
After what wycombe fc put us through this year, I definitely want to see wycombe battered.
Wycombe fc have been adamant we should have been relegated rather than them, they didn't want to recognise that we weren't relegated last season due to efl rules.
Wycombe fc have mouthed off against to often.
come on sunderland.
Good game to watch.
 

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written. 
 
 

I'm concerned that nothing comes from this, that the efl doesn't change and that no independent regulator is established.
What worried me most about boro and Wycombe is that they took advantage of dcfc because there was no money to defend dcfc and the efl sat back and did nothing.
 

Everything I've read about the wycombe vs dcfc said that wycombe fc had zero case to answer, but that wycombe fc were chancers.
Wycombe fc will be laughing at us, if they get promoted. A relegated season, and straight back to the Championship.
I definitely want to face wycombe fc and beat them next season, but we can't do that if they are promoted.

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written. 
 
 

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written. 
 
 

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written. 
 
 

Knowing which battles are worth fighting, is wisdom.
Making the efl our enemy, when they set the rules of the game is foolhardy.
We are better of leaving this to the politicians, and hopefully there will be an independent regulator.
Other clubs might criticise Derby for recent events, but that doesn't matter, because one day it will be there turn to ask for help and Derby might not be in their corner.
What is coming has to better for the club, than what the club has just been through.
 
 

Knowing which battles are worth fighting, is wisdom.
Making the efl our enemy, when they set the rules of the game is foolhardy.
We are better of leaving this to the politicians, and hopefully there will be an independent regulator.
Other clubs might criticise Derby for recent events, but that doesn't matter, because one day it will be there turn to ask for help and Derby might not be in their corner.
What is coming has to better for the club, than what the club has just been through.
 
 

Conservative MP Damian Collins, a former chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, said it was the EFL's failure to punish Derby at the time which has caused the current chaos.
"If the EFL had enforced its own financial rules effectively this wouldn't have happened," said Collins. "And yet it is the EFL's own rules that will trigger the expulsion of Derby from the league."
EFL as a governing body deserves opprobrium for today’s situation too. Its tardiness in dealing with these initial rule breaches, the lack of clarity over its FFP regulations, coupled with years of wrangling on charges for which the club was eventually cleared, led to prolonged uncertainty for Derby and, more significantly, to other clubs becoming increasingly aggrieved. 
The efl are guilty by failure to act on the boro and Wycombe spurious claims.
The EFL’s judgment on whether they are indeed football debts crucial. According to Derby’s administrators, the EFL was unwilling to clarify this, imperilling a Derby takeover. That left the club scrambling to find ways to prove they could afford to see out the season by the EFL-imposed deadline of February 1.
It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. 
The efl failed derby in reflecting the effect of lost revenue due to covid.
Julian Knight, the chairman of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee pointed out the EFL had benefited from financial assistance itself, during the Covid crisis.
'In light of that, it is beholden on the EFL to show decency and understanding to Derby County, a former league champion club, in this their hour of need,' he said.
I don't want to keep rehashing these things, but for me, without question, the efl are not innocent km the Derby county situation.
Would things have been different if dcfc had am owner with financial clout to bring in lawyers to defend itself, we might never know, and now thanks to ck, another chapter of dcfc cab be written.