PistoldPete

Totaly agree. Rooney playing to the gallery of the press. Cheap and unnecessary. Ok he is miffed that Mel hasn't spoken but Rooney went too far.  

Can't compare Derby's loss of £20 million in revenue with the other 72 clubs, most of them lost nothing like that. Most of the bigger teams in the Championship had parachute money, or got Covid support money. We may be first into admin but we will not be the last.  

Totaly agree. Rooney playing to the gallery of the press. Cheap and unnecessary. Ok he is miffed that Mel hasn't spoken but Rooney went too far.  

Totaly agree. Rooney playing to the gallery of the press. Cheap and unnecessary. Ok he is miffed that Mel hasn't spoken but Rooney went too far.  

Totaly agree. Rooney playing to the gallery of the press. Cheap and unnecessary. Ok he is miffed that Mel hasn't spoken but Rooney went too far.  

Totaly agree. Rooney playing to the gallery of the press. Cheap and unnecessary. Ok he is miffed that Mel hasn't spoken but Rooney went too far.  

Exactly. Not sure what the point of Rooney having a pop at him was . The interview on Radio Derby was maybe a bit cold and unemotional but  nothing Morris said in it struck me as dishonest .

It's not an argument at all. How did covid affect Derby , not how did it affect other clubs. And the fact that EFL gave a loan to other clubs but not Derby doesnt help EFL's case if that is what it is anyway.   

Where does it say SOLELY in the EFL Rules?
 
Wigan's administrators brought a force majeure defenceand lost.. but this is what the tribunal said..
"We reject the submission of Mr Taylor QC that there were other, also effective, causes,
including the significant increase in the Club’s players’ wages and on transfers. That
these made the Club increasingly dependent on the owner’s continuing support is clearly
true. But so long as that support continued, the ship would have stayed afloat. It was
only when the owner pulled the plug that it sank."
 
So the overspend by Derby on wages etc may have contributed but were not the cause. In Wigan's case the owner withdrew support 7 days after taking over. So they were on a loser. Derby have a much strongr force majeure case, especially as it was MSD , not the owner, who filed for administration, so that was outside the control of the owner.
 
 

It's not an argument at all. How did covid affect Derby , not how did it affect other clubs. And the fact that EFL gave a loan to other clubs but not Derby doesnt help EFL's case if that is what it is anyway.   

It's not an argument at all. How did covid affect Derby , not how did it affect other clubs. And the fact that EFL gave a loan to other clubs but not Derby doesnt help EFL's case if that is what it is anyway.   

Not true. It says that the force majeure event must have caused administration directly and the owners must have used all reasonable efforts to stop admin from happening.
 
whatever mess we were in before COVID happened is irrelevant , it’s what happened after then did the owners do enough to stop admin happening ? 

Well that’s true. Ed Dawes never asks any great questions.

Not true. It says that the force majeure event must have caused administration directly and the owners must have used all reasonable efforts to stop admin from happening.
 
whatever mess we were in before COVID happened is irrelevant , it’s what happened after then did the owners do enough to stop admin happening ? 

Well we lost in excess of £39 million even with the profit from stadium  sale . Before the stadium sale accrued losses were over £80 million in just three years ending 2017/18 . So maybe Mel said here you are , I swap you the stadium for the £80 million debt you owe and we are quits? We lost ££20 million during pandemic  , then there is money owed to keogh cocu plus money lost during lampards year. All adds up.

It isn’t just about City of Derby , we are Derby county after all. It affects the whole community outside of Derby as well .

It isn’t just about City of Derby , we are Derby county after all. It affects the whole community outside of Derby as well .

The original Bury is still in existence as a dormant club. So AFC bury has no legitimacy as a Phoenix club.
That’s why they have started at such a low level.
if the worst were to happen to Derby I don’t see a reset starting anywhere near that level .