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Derby has taken a step closer in its bid to become the new home of Great British Railways (GBR).
The city is one of six locations to be shortlisted from 42 expressions of interest across the UK. The chosen city will become the HQ for the new organisation which has been created to deliver a simpler, better railway for everyone in Britain. The other shortlisted cities are Birmingham, Crewe, Doncaster, Newcastle and York.
Bringing GBR to Derby would be extremely beneficial for the region and would help to level up the area, which is why we’ve badged our bid and campaign as the ‘East Midlands’ vote. The winning location will also see the move of highly skilled jobs and investment outside of London into our region.
Why we believe that Derby and the East Midlands is the perfect choice for GBR:
One of the first great British railway towns The only city to have manufactured rolling stock continuously since 1840 The East Midlands is the geographic and strategic heart of Britain’s railway Home to Europe’s largest cluster of private-sector rail businesses A centre of railway skills with over 11,000 highly-skilled rail employees based in the Derby area and 45,000 rail-related jobs across the East Midlands During the bidding process we reached out to Local Authorities across the East Midlands and received backing from Derbyshire, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, Leicester and Leicestershire, alongside 21 MPs from across the region. We now need your help to spread the word and help Derby and the East Midlands become the new home for GBR.
Please help us by sharing our campaign with your colleagues, stakeholders, friends and family and ask them to vote for Derby!
How can you help
You can visit the Destination Derby website to learn more about the campaign and access our online toolkit for photos, logos and social media graphics. 
We’ll be sharing messaging through the Derby City Council Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook pages throughout the campaign and public vote.

Please help to share these messages using #DerbyGBR and the national campaign #DestinationGBR or by sharing your own messages of support.

Visit www.derbygbr.co.uk/vote to vote for Derby!
This information is been shared on forum at the request of Derby City Council

Mate - please don't let this stress you out at all - you haven't caused trouble at all - we'll never all agree about a topic or the way people speak and the chat that came out if it is just about other people wanting to debate and nothing to do with what you said 
You're always a valued ray of positive support for Derby on this forum as far as I'm concerned and I'd hate to see our bickering upsetting you 

You said nothing wrong mate. Don't worry about it.
You know what it's like.... People have to argue.

Put it out of your mind B4. It's just a difference of opinion and most posters are on your side. 

Well I am sorry I never meant cause trouble I am sorry sigh
All I wanted to talk about football and that it.?????????????☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹

You didn’t do anything wrong @B4ev6is. No need to apologise to anybody therefore. I forget player’s names too. ?

Daniel lad, don't let this worry you. You posted innocently and with no malice aforethought. That should be the over-riding consideration here.
Don't let them grind you down. Keep on being you. There's nowt wrong with that. A few weeks down the road you'll know who's who and won't be struggling to describe a player. If there is a new one you could always check the team sheet if you're not sure of a name. The new player will be the one whose name you are unfamiliar with. Your enthusiasm has always been infectious. Keep on keepin' on. UTR!

I don’t get your point? Would I go up to a black person directly and tell them or describe them as black? Why would I need to do that? It’s not like they wouldn’t know.
If you are describing a third person by what they look like physically to identify them, using the colour of their skin is absolutely fine. Why wouldn’t it be?
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

There is no need for an edit, your views are your views, but, you do not get to decide what's appropriate on this message board, its for David and his team to do so.  Clearly they see no issue and feel that its fine to stay, which is why the moderators have not amended the post. 
I think we should leave the moderators to do there jobs rather than trying to do it for them, there jobs difficult enough as it is!

Describing him as black? He is black… And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Black isn’t a taboo word. It’s an adjective you use to describe something. 
 
There is a big difference when using the word in a derogatory sense or followed by an insult.
 

Blimey Johnny Russell has been loading up on the burgers in the States. Not keen on his odd socks either. 

yes, the only way you defeat racism is by making the colour of skin as insignificant as whether they wear glasses or have freckles, or whatever for that matter. I would imagine it is actually highly offensive to a lot of people of colour to suggest offense on their behalf by use of a factual physical descriptor. Really quite patronising attitude IMO. I do wonder if society will ever be capable of maturing without being led by the 1% offended-by-everything expressing faux outrage on behalf of someone else who isn't actually offended. 

Came in here to see some footy discussion and ended up in a Tory manufactured culture war.

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

Using expressions like "an accident black spot" or a "black day for X" is problematic because it's using "black" to mean "bad", so most people these days will find a different way to express this, quite rightly.

Saying a black person is black isn't problematic. It may have been unnecessary on this occasion and so better left out, but it's not racist to include skin tone as an identifier where it makes things clear. On the contrary, dancing around trying to avoid saying a black person is black can honestly be more problematic - you're acting like you think black = bad. It's not.

Anyway that said, Kwaku Oduroh played really well and I'd like to see him play lots of minutes this preseason

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

Using expressions like "an accident black spot" or a "black day for X" is problematic because it's using "black" to mean "bad", so most people these days will find a different way to express this, quite rightly.

Saying a black person is black isn't problematic. It may have been unnecessary on this occasion and so better left out, but it's not racist to include skin tone as an identifier where it makes things clear. On the contrary, dancing around trying to avoid saying a black person is black can honestly be more problematic - you're acting like you think black = bad. It's not.

Anyway that said, Kwaku Oduroh played really well and I'd like to see him play lots of minutes this preseason

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

With these issues it's always best to consider harm rather than offence - whether there is any potential harm in using an expression. I'd say there isn't any here, and that (a couple of) people are acting with great motives but coming at things from a wrong angle.
Anyway, hopefully we can agree we're all part of Liam Rosenior's Black & White Army

Using expressions like "an accident black spot" or a "black day for X" is problematic because it's using "black" to mean "bad", so most people these days will find a different way to express this, quite rightly.

Saying a black person is black isn't problematic. It may have been unnecessary on this occasion and so better left out, but it's not racist to include skin tone as an identifier where it makes things clear. On the contrary, dancing around trying to avoid saying a black person is black can honestly be more problematic - you're acting like you think black = bad. It's not.

Anyway that said, Kwaku Oduroh played really well and I'd like to see him play lots of minutes this preseason

Using expressions like "an accident black spot" or a "black day for X" is problematic because it's using "black" to mean "bad", so most people these days will find a different way to express this, quite rightly.

Saying a black person is black isn't problematic. It may have been unnecessary on this occasion and so better left out, but it's not racist to include skin tone as an identifier where it makes things clear. On the contrary, dancing around trying to avoid saying a black person is black can honestly be more problematic - you're acting like you think black = bad. It's not.

Anyway that said, Kwaku Oduroh played really well and I'd like to see him play lots of minutes this preseason