Tamworthram

Agreed

I thought many people had decided that we do have an identity - play it out wide, avoiding the midfield, as soon as you can and get crosses in? (I’m only half joking).

Burton 93 Bristol 90 Oxford 86 There’s three examples of when we’ve scored late to win a game. If Barnsley are doing what they need to but are still below us, does that mean we’re also doing what we need to do? Regarding them rarely losing, they’ve only lost one less game than us. I’m not ruling anyone out of making the top two but I’m not ruling anyone in either. That was my point.

I was thinking of doing the same so that I miss the first half given how generally grim they have been at PP.

To be fair, they are pretty crap and it ain’t a difficult job.

I think more importantly, none of the others in the chasing pack are really doing that well. Barnsley won but needed goals in the 88th and 95th minute, Bolton and Stevenage only drew (albeit away from home) and Peterborough, who a lot of us thought were the best team we’d seen just over a month ago, have only picked up 1 point from the last 4 games. It seems we’re all doing our best to avoid automatic promotion.

Maybe it amounts to the same thing but the thing that cost us was the replacement, for apparently forced substitution, failing to deal with the situation.

I thought Bradley did OK except for one occasion when he was forced into hoofing it with his much weaker right foot. I certainly don’t think he weakened us unless you’re comparing him directly with Cashin in which case, any replacement would have “weakened” us.

I’m not sure there will be much football played next Saturday.😀

Maybe because the opportunity to take a quicker throw in is lost by the tardy ball retrieval.

He also made a point that Nyambe felt a bit of an injury and that's why he took him off.

Are we all assuming that Warne was telling porkies in his post match interview when he said Nyambe was feeling an injury?

I would imagine the clock would start ticking as soon as the ref restarts the game I.e. not until the player has left the field. I reckon that would be the least of the challenges. Regarding when it ends, that’s one of the points I was making when comparing it to rugby where if the clock is stopped because of an injury or a TMO review for example, the sin bin clock also stops. There is no such precise time keeping in football.

I thought the thread was going to be about an uncomfortable piercing in a delicate place. Ouch. That’ll make your eyes water. (Not speaking from personal experience of course). 😀

You should meet my 94 year old dad. He’s become more argumentative than ever and will pretty much argue about anything. 😀

Personally, I'm not bothered. I've not got Sky and never will have it (apart from the occasional 24hr pass when Derby are on and I can't make the game). Even if I did have Sky, it would only be to watch actual events (of a variety of sports) and not to listen to either their sports "news" or what their pundits might have to say.

Indeed although I'd say the powers that be think it MIGHT work, and is therefore worth testing, rather than WILL work. I think something is warranted but I'm not personally convinced this is a good answer.

Because, IMO, 1) as already discussed a man in the sin bin might very well cause the team playing a man short to try and kill the game and slow it down until they are back up to strength. Heaven knows blatant (lawful and unlawful) time wasting is frustrating enough already without this added cause and 2) some offences may be worthy of a yellow card but ten minutes in the sin bin might be a bit harsh.

The crazy thing is, I imagine there of plenty that actually believe some/all of the above to be true.😊

It does work in rugby but I think that is mainly because it’s much harder to slow the game down for ten minutes in order to kill time until your sin bin player is back on the pitch especially if your team isn’t in possession of the ball. Football is much more fluid in terms of possession and I think it would be much easier to deploy such tactics. There is no real delay in line outs because they are taken from exactly where the officials say and you don’t have to mess around waiting for one of your players to become free to receive the ball. Also, there is no real equivalent of the goal keeper holding onto the ball and not being allowed to be challenged. In rugby, when the full backs have the ball, they don’t generally have that long and will often punt the ball down field which, more often than not, turns possession over to the other team. In football, there would be much more passing the ball backwards and forwards between the defenders. Because you can only pass backwards, this is less likely to happen in rugby. Also, in rugby, the actual game time is much more directly linked to the actual clock which is stopped under certain circumstances (e.g. an injury). The sim bin clock also stops. We all know, in football, time added on is much more arbitrary. We’d probably need a 5th official to keep time (with appropriate pauses) for sin bin times. In short, I think the differences between rugby (and other sports to play more to the clock and where it’s harder to waste time legally) and football is too big to use it as a comparison in this respect. With regard whether a yellow card is really a punishment or not, I think it is when, as you say, the player has to be a bit more cautious for the rest of the game especially defenders. I think the only time a sin bin would be an effective punishment is when there isn’t a great deal of time left and the team on the receiving end are having to chase the game.

You would think they could get it right but if that’s something to be “concerned” about then the more serious matters must be pretty rosy. 😀

Results were even better on Tuesday 😀 Seriously though, I’ve been saying it for a long time that we’re no different to most clubs supporters every time I read things like “typical of Derby fans” or reading things like the behaviour of some of our fan base away from home, any lack of atmosphere at home, getting on players backs etc. etc.

Fixed that for you.😀

I agree with @SSD. A sin bin ruling would be a disaster as one team would try to kill the game for the 10 minute period. Also, I’m not sure how it would work. Would there be “time added on” for the sin bin period for any lengthy delays? Regarding dissent, referees could help themselves by booking more players. Wasn’t there a rule a few years ago whereby if a player showed dissent after conceding a free kick the ball was moved another 10 yards? I know they do it in rugby (where field position is more important) but I thought it happened in football for a while. Maybe I was dreaming it. An extra 10 yards isn’t always an advantage so maybe the team taking the free kick should be given the option of the original placement, 10 yards further forward, or anywhere between the 2 points. Maybe cynical fouls (alternatively known as professional fouls) should be a straight red.

Spot on. I often feel the same especially since retiring. It sometimes feels that the days just pass me by. I’m now a trustee with two charities (a local listed building and Citizens Advice), act as mentor for another organisation that helps small clubs with the business planning etc and am a school governor. It’s certainly good to keep busy but also make sure you have some “me time” for your hobbies etc.