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Just finished Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt. It was a light read but felt quite refreshing. I read it mostly before bed over the last week and it was nice to just have something to help me switch off easily. One of the main characters is an octopus, which I really enjoyed. 

I don’t know the ins and outs of it but you’d have to guess that it was something contractual as opposed to him being a bad egg. Maybe if he made a certain amount of appearances we’d have to pay X more money for him or something. A shame either way. 

Ah, facts!
Can't say for sure as I haven't paid much attention to Hull this season, but from the outside it looks like they spent a lot of money this season maxing out their squad hoping they'd go up, or at least make the play-offs. It certainly looked like a team that should have finished in at least the play-offs on paper.
Perhaps if he'd finished 7th without having those loans like Carvalho, the owner would have seen it differently!

If I do, I know what to hang myself with and keep within budget.  

Potentially - you do see a lot more free transfers/loans due to the spending power of the clubs. 
But he had to fight for automatic promotion against teams that could go and spend the money on players like Collins and May. Our rivals at the top of the league didn't have the EFL looming over them like we did. 
So yes, like you said, he should be commended for the job he has done with what little money we did have, and under those restrictions. I'm not sure why that is so hard for some people to deal with, but I could take a guess.

I remember him looking like the only player that knew what he was supposed to be doing against Bristol City away (in which he scored). Then just totally bombed out. Shame really as the Anya that played for Watford was fantastic. 

I remember him looking like the only player that knew what he was supposed to be doing against Bristol City away (in which he scored). Then just totally bombed out. Shame really as the Anya that played for Watford was fantastic. 

If you ever get the opportunity to chat to someone who was around the team at the time, ask them what sort of “leader” Keogh was during Nigel Pearson’s time at the club.

(Going to assume that this post is sarcastic as I’m sure you don’t actually think we had that money to spend on any player)
Feel like I’ve said this about ten times now but I don’t quite understand how anyone can argue that Warne isn’t impressive at this level. He’s had four promotions. He got us promoted in his first full season. Yes, the football has been less that pretty, but the job he has done is impressive.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

(Going to assume that this post is sarcastic as I’m sure you don’t actually think we had that money to spend on any player)
Feel like I’ve said this about ten times now but I don’t quite understand how anyone can argue that Warne isn’t impressive at this level. He’s had four promotions. He got us promoted in his first full season. Yes, the football has been less that pretty, but the job he has done is impressive.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

(Going to assume that this post is sarcastic as I’m sure you don’t actually think we had that money to spend on any player)
Feel like I’ve said this about ten times now but I don’t quite understand how anyone can argue that Warne isn’t impressive at this level. He’s had four promotions. He got us promoted in his first full season. Yes, the football has been less that pretty, but the job he has done is impressive.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

(Going to assume that this post is sarcastic as I’m sure you don’t actually think we had that money to spend on any player)
Feel like I’ve said this about ten times now but I don’t quite understand how anyone can argue that Warne isn’t impressive at this level. He’s had four promotions. He got us promoted in his first full season. Yes, the football has been less that pretty, but the job he has done is impressive.

Nobody is saying we were poverty stricken. And before you accuse me of doing this by using the word "shoestring", let me just clarify that I used that word simply to describe the small amount of money we had to work with and the balancing act the club had to go through to sign a player: CBT being the most obvious example of this. Fornah and Kane Wilson two others.
Our budget, even under restrictions, was almost certainly competitive when compared with the division as a whole. I'm sure Cheltenham Town and Bristol Rovers would struggle to match us ever with the EFL looming over us. 
But we certainly weren't in a position to splash the cash either, were we?
Other teams were managing to beat us to the signing of players because they could pay fees that we couldn't. Warne even acknowledged this when speaking about a striker that had joined a rival (believe it was Lang going to Portsmouth?).
You're trying to make out that we had money to spend and just chose not to. I don't think that's true or even fair. 
The wider point of this whole discussion though is around whether Warne and the club did an impressive job recruiting this season with those restrictions in place. I think they did. 
You don't seem to want to engage in that discussion, but instead you would rather play the role of an English teacher marking an exam paper, dishing out big red crosses for the use of terminology you find "erroneous" 
I've agreed with many of your points over the season on Warne and his style of play, but it's starting to feel now like you are just entrenched in a position of constant criticism of him that isn't particularly fair.

We have been having to operate under financial restrictions for the last two seasons that the likes of Ipswich, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bolton, Charlton, etc have not

The football hasn't been too impressive at times, but getting four promotions from League One absolutely is.
He's managed to get us up on a shoestring budget with a squad debilitated by injuries. We could have been stuck down in this division for years. 
I appreciate people have an issue with the football that's been played on the pitch at times - I am one of these - but you cannot tell me that what he's achieved at this less isn't impressive. 

Remember when you were getting funny with a poster for being needlessly rude in their response to you?
The point I’m trying to make is that his recruitment was impressive this season considering the restrictions he had on spending 

As I said earlier in this thread, the wage bill is probably that high due to the contracts of players not signed by Warne, so I’m not sure it’s fair to use that against him. 
Think your second sentence is pretty knowingly unfair, too. You know as well as I do that there were still restrictions on spending; restrictions that have now been lifted!
I’ll say it again: there are areas that you can rightly criticise Warne on, but this surely isn’t one of them!

All of the money we did have had to go into wages. We literally didn’t spend a fee on a player. We had weird loans and promotions clauses and all kinds of creativity going on. How else could you describe the other than shoe string? We weren’t able to compete with Bolton and Pompey for players - we even got out manoeuvred by Charlton!
There are things that Warne can be fairly criticised on but I don’t think managing our budget can be one. Credit where credit is due!

It’s a thread about how impressive Warne has been - you can say you’re just being the forum fact-checker if you like, but it is pretty obvious why you are doing it
 

As I said earlier in this thread, the wage bill is probably that high due to the contracts of players not signed by Warne, so I’m not sure it’s fair to use that against him. 
Think your second sentence is pretty knowingly unfair, too. You know as well as I do that there were still restrictions on spending; restrictions that have now been lifted!
I’ll say it again: there are areas that you can rightly criticise Warne on, but this surely isn’t one of them!