NottsRam77

I would imagine it would be highly inadvisable. 
I'm an extremely passive person, but I've never hated anything or anyone as much as him for what he's done to this club and city. I'd imagine if he was caught out by the wrong person at the wrong time, it would not end well for him. 
I would hope he moves to a different country and he's never seen again. 

What the hell am I reading?
Are people actually forgetting the role the EFL have played in the legal proceedings against us that rumbled beyond the last transfer window and put everyone off making a bid for us.  Delays that saw us lose Jagileka and a goalscorer, plus half of our amazing academy. 
And that's after the legal proceedings against us for the ground etc that led to the delays that led to the late points deduction that led to the legal proceedings that led to nobody putting in a acceptable bid until a month or so a go. 
The fact we didn't go down the season before was 'regrettable'. 
Blame Mel, absolutely, but to call the EFL the boogeyman or a smokescreen shows a complete lack of understanding. 
Christ. 

Shoutout to Ed Dawes, by the way. I know he gets a lot of stick and divides opinion, but the news he broke earlier this week has really set the wheels turning.
Whether it’s true or not, it doesn’t really matter now. What it has done is put a rocket up the arse of many people. I think Quantuma would probably have continued to just wait for CK’s money to land, which may or may not happen. But since Dawes’ reports, additional parties are being given the chance, Quantuma’s practice is finally being questioned in the media, and the EFL have stepped in to try and speed things up and more importantly, stop Quantuma ballsing it up.
We will never really know for sure, but his actions might well end up saving our Club.

Great post, couldnt agree more

Im not sure iv got the stomach for another against the odds relegation scrap while our now noisy neighbours dine out in premiership swanky land 

I’d say a successful owner is one that doesn’t send a club in to administration at the minute…but I do think he’s been hard done to by Newcastle fans.
He bought them in 2007, if you look at the table in 2008 and how many of those clubs are no longer Premier League (or at least suffered a relegation in that time) you’d get Villa, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Middlesbrough, Wigan, Sunderland, Bolton, Fulham, Reading, Birmingham and Derby (I think West Ham might have even been down in that time too?).
So 11/12 teams also have been relegated and I’d say only Villa and West Ham can say they’re better sides when he sold them.
We could easily be talking about Newcastle falling to League 1 rather than Sunderland/Portsmouth/Bolton as they were all just as good as Newcastle around that time.
It’s extremely difficult to compete in the Premier League unless you’re spending ridiculous money and even then it’s not guaranteed (look at Everton).
Not saying he’s my pick as I wouldn’t be happy with -15 points, but if he was to take over then I think I’d be optimistic in where we would be in 3-5 years time. If I’m honest, Kirchner scares me a lot as it’s just all so unknown and if you read Slync’s staff reviews of Kirchner on Glassdoor it’s concerning. Appleby is a good medium for me, tried and tested but (hopefully) without -15 points.

Think ur bang on.
welcome to the forum

Have i missed something overnight? 
 
we’re far from saved unless as i say iv missed something overnight.
last i read we we’re waiting for crypto funds to be approved and released by the sec, the fed, the naughty money police, steve gibson, that wycombe twonk, mel morris and every forest fan lol

Lol, yes i think your right lol…. Forgive its early and the kids have been up since 5am… i got excited and thought have i missed some breaking news lol

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Lol, yes i think your right lol…. Forgive its early and the kids have been up since 5am… i got excited and thought have i missed some breaking news lol

You've missed nothing in 1,930 pages, let alone overnight!  I was being sarcastic.  When I set off (26th May), it was reputedly all but done!  ?

I think judging by the eyes at the bottom,  that the post was tongue in cheek and sarcastic 

Hello everyone.  Nice to meet you all.  Found this forum a week or so ago, and in the circumstances have been reading frequently.
I do believe there is, perhaps understandably, a mismatch between business reality and fans wanting to "save our club".  Some of the business people involved also care deeply about football, and some this club; but business comes first and their backers are not going to want to "donate" monies beyond the relative value of the proposition.  
I work in financial services and investment.  I have previously worked at a global accountancy firm, where I for a while sat next to a company administrator - no, not Q - so have some familiarity with how these processes work in general terms. 
My analysis: is DCFC has VERY large debts.  DCFC has virtually no tangible assets.  Those we do have are players (if very few!).  On liquidation, unlike with other firms in most normal industries, those assets can leave for free on liquidation - so valueless to a liquidator.  We have considerable brand value (30k matchday attendees), all those here etc etc.  That brand value dies on liquidation, if EFL does not allow re-entry at L2.  Unlike with most businesses, the name cannot simply be sold as a way to pay creditors.
There is an old maxim: if I owe the bank £10,000, I have a problem; If I owe the bank a £1billion, the bank has a problem. That applies here.  On liquidation, the creditors get nothing.  Think about it, the players have no value and we don't own the ground.  We are left with paying £100m or whatever it is from old replica kits from the Superstore.
Ashley knows this, too.  As do all the buyers.  The reality is someone needs to be screwed here.  Liquidation screws everyone, but the admins need to extract as much as they can.  And so along strides a wonderful American who will generously pay a nice amount to said creditors for a L1 club.  No points deduction.  Keep Rooney.  40 new players.  He might as well throw Bale in to the mix as well, and consider putting a bit in for Messi.  It feels - not saying it is - a little too good to be true.  He is offering to be the one financially screwed for the greater good of everyone else.  And on cue the money doesn't turn up... makes you wonder.
What, in my opinion, this club has needed since January is to have the real crunch liquidation point - the club will liquidate on x date without x monies.  At the moment, creditors are thinking "I can get a 'good' deal from some naive mug" and are not considering the real haircut they are going to need to take to get some monies back, maybe 5 or 10p in the pound.  Once a potential vulture owner decides to accept the points deduction, why offer the creditors any less than a completely derisory offer (you get them to their lowest point before they refuse on principle)?  The points deduction will be the same.
This is Ashley's strategy (and probably everyone else bar CK).  He is planning to screw the creditors.  But this only works if you are prepared to hold out to the very very very last minute; and you can act fast to prevent the reapers axe actually coming down. 
The idea he will take CK's terms like-for-like is for the birds.      
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 

I think at times eds passion for the club gets the better of him sometimes “collapse” is perhaps not quite right all though doesnt look far off right now 
but im sure as hell not going to nit pick at him for the odd slip and letting the fan inside him out
I know its his job but jesus christ he loves this club and so will be hurting just as much as any one of us 
love his passion on matchdays 

Totally agree, hes conducted himself like an adolescent teen or flawaz on social media
In my book thats not how u conduct business, in the open and public domain. 
Just smacks of naivety as does his attempt to move significant monies at the last minute 

Im out if we become a phoenix club
sorry my club is derby county football club
my sacred memories are interwoven in this club. i support them cos thats how my dad brought me up, he was my only tie to the club. 

if they go, i go, dads gone and it would be final nail in the coffin and an end of whats been an amazing but ultimately soul destroying adventure.  
 
Sorry iv had a few sherberts and am a bit emotional about all of this 
 

I think at times eds passion for the club gets the better of him sometimes “collapse” is perhaps not quite right all though doesnt look far off right now 
but im sure as hell not going to nit pick at him for the odd slip and letting the fan inside him out
I know its his job but jesus christ he loves this club and so will be hurting just as much as any one of us 
love his passion on matchdays 

I think at times eds passion for the club gets the better of him sometimes “collapse” is perhaps not quite right all though doesnt look far off right now 
but im sure as hell not going to nit pick at him for the odd slip and letting the fan inside him out
I know its his job but jesus christ he loves this club and so will be hurting just as much as any one of us 
love his passion on matchdays 

This screams of Mike Ashley's perfect business scenario. Wait until a company is desperate for a sale, he has the higher ground on negotiations and administrators accept his demands. He's done this with many of the failing high street retailers. And turns it around. I couldn't less if Pride Park was plastered in Sports Direct advertising. If it meant saving the heart and soul of my city then so be it. Owners don't last forever.

I think at times eds passion for the club gets the better of him sometimes “collapse” is perhaps not quite right all though doesnt look far off right now 
but im sure as hell not going to nit pick at him for the odd slip and letting the fan inside him out
I know its his job but jesus christ he loves this club and so will be hurting just as much as any one of us 
love his passion on matchdays 

Dont think anyones expecting a spending spree and if they do then they need to have a word with themselves
if ur going to buy a massive asset and u know theres a deadline in place then imo its pretty piss poor organisation to not have those funds in place ready to push the button and meet said deadline and by that i mean have it in a uk bank account, approved, cleared ready to be buzzed over.
hes in business and he wasnt aware that moving said funds from overseas to a uk bank account could involve delays.? especially as to where the money has been allegedly made, the sec, the fed even the banks themselves want to make life as difficult as possible with crypto.
if your in the crypto space u know this and that moving fiat monies with profit that u have made is a nightmare, nevermind the sort of monies we’re talking about for this
i just find it baffling this wasnt sorted way before we got to this stage and the last 5 mins of this deadline 
 

Im out if we become a phoenix club
sorry my club is derby county football club
my sacred memories are interwoven in this club. i support them cos thats how my dad brought me up, he was my only tie to the club. 

if they go, i go, dads gone and it would be final nail in the coffin and an end of whats been an amazing but ultimately soul destroying adventure.  
 
Sorry iv had a few sherberts and am a bit emotional about all of this 
 

Dont think anyones expecting a spending spree and if they do then they need to have a word with themselves
if ur going to buy a massive asset and u know theres a deadline in place then imo its pretty piss poor organisation to not have those funds in place ready to push the button and meet said deadline and by that i mean have it in a uk bank account, approved, cleared ready to be buzzed over.
hes in business and he wasnt aware that moving said funds from overseas to a uk bank account could involve delays.? especially as to where the money has been allegedly made, the sec, the fed even the banks themselves want to make life as difficult as possible with crypto.
if your in the crypto space u know this and that moving fiat monies with profit that u have made is a nightmare, nevermind the sort of monies we’re talking about for this
i just find it baffling this wasnt sorted way before we got to this stage and the last 5 mins of this deadline