Guest Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I don't believe that the club have said anything - they cannot be blamed for the hysteria of others, can they?Can they?As far as I can tell, a journalist who is quite often right has tweeted that McClaren has gone, and two journalists more closely associated with Derby have tweeted the opposite. The hysteria has been generated by the fans.Personally I think that whatever the outcome, I have been proved right on one thing today.Many people are idiots.The daily telegraph guy tweeted he would be leaving...DET tweeting he is still coach.neither tweet contradicts the other.....to add up a wealth of evidence, analyse the evidence does not make people idiots.the status of situation dictated Mclaren likely to leave after woeful last day performance.and once reliable itk's started saying two days ago there was a meeting to be held, it implied he would be leaving.to stick to your assertion he was not leaving, because it had not been officially announced smacks of head in sand moment.how can you believe in history..there are often scant pieces of evidence, just LIKELY conclusions as to what happened. It is frankly annoying to hear you call people idiots...when said people were using and assimilating a wealth of information to reach their conclusion.many predicted he would leave based on our embarrassing end of season collapse. We are an ambitious club and coach/manager is a key position. Brett Wilson commented publicly ages ago something along the lines of we will be fine whoever is our manager. In any organisation having the top people say such things about the post you hold is not a great sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 If he goes, interesting the club are willing to wave of the reported £2 million if he left for another club. That can only show that the club want to bring someone in early to let them get going and the club do have a war chest behind them.at least Clement will know Albentosa better than most! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The daily telegraph guy tweeted he would be leaving...DET tweeting he is still coach.neither tweet contradicts the other.....to add up a wealth of evidence, analyse the evidence does not make people idiots.the status of situation dictated Mclaren likely to leave after woeful last day performance.and once reliable itk's started saying two days ago there was a meeting to be held, it implied he would be leaving.to stick to your assertion he was not leaving, because it had not been officially announced smacks of head in sand moment.how can you believe in history..there are often scant pieces of evidence, just LIKELY conclusions as to what happened. It is frankly annoying to hear you call people idiots...when said people were using and assimilating a wealth of information to reach their conclusion.many predicted he would leave based on our embarrassing end of season collapse. We are an ambitious club and coach/manager is a key position. Brett Wilson commented publicly ages ago something along the lines of we will be fine whoever is our manager. In any organisation having the top people say such things about the post you hold is not a great sign. I stand by every word - MANY people are idiots. The only person I have indirectly called an idiot is Curtains - for saying that if McClaren stays, then he will not back him, and my assertion to that nonsense is that would be demonstrably an idiotic decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hey I don't agree with the nazis, but I'll back them Because of my love for Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hey I don't agree with the nazis, but I'll back them Because of my love for Germany. So Steve McClaren is a Nazi now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So Steve McClaren is a Nazi now?Here comes eddies little helper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So is mine but is McClarens. At least I bought a season ticket and have supported Derby for 53 years Oh, we're playing 'who is the biggest Derby fan' are we? My first season ticket wasn't 53 years ago (Malaya would have been a hell of a long way to come back for home games) - I've no idea when I really started supporting Derby because Reg Harrison and Jack Stamps were family friends when I was a nipper (in fact my dad was Reg's sergeant when he did his National Service) - but I did get my first in 1966 - it cost me 4 or 5 weeks paper round money. I did have a sabbatical when the Amigos were here, but since they left I've had one ever since. I'm just allergic to giving money to crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Here comes eddies little helper. So you don't have an answer?I'm paraphrasing but here's what Eddie once said to me - 'I like to believe that there's a little bit of good in everyone, but I'm willing to make an exception for you'. Not quite how you paint it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 This is the most ridiculous thing to tweet and I'm surprised at Steve Nicholson but I suppose it's factually correct for now Clubs don't make announcements late at night but it's leaked out IMO what will happen tomorrow . SSN saying future decided in next 24hrs to cover themselves the same as Daily Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/derby-county/11622430/Derby-County-sack-Steve-McClaren-as-Real-Madrid-coach-Paul-Clement-waits-in-wings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Here comes eddies little helper. RLACML isn't even an anagram of Mostyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 RLACML isn't even an anagram of Mostyn.Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Bit of good business if he finishes up at Toon .They save £2,000,000 and we have to pay to sack McClaren . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Its hard to see how the relevant relationships can survive this process.I therefore assume that both sides are in a stand off.The club presumably haven't got proof that he has had inappropriate contact with newcastle, but want to sack him and potentially sue him for damages and breach of contract if newcastle don't pay up the compensation; Clement on standby.Newcastle may have been trying to engineer a situation which saves them from paying any compensation.Schteve's presumably not admitting anything, and threatening to sue for unfair dismissal.Where Sam Rush stands is anyones guess after he sat longside Schteve whilst the latter joked about newcastle's interest at the Q&A.What a mess. Obviously i'm speculating. But i'm not hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Things can't be described as hysterical before we've heard Jill Gallone's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Speculation about Newcastle just won't go away will it and it's disruptive to DCFC so thanks Steve but it's in the best interests of all parties for you to leave IMO . http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footballpremier-league/steve-mcclaren-to-newcastle-magpies-ready-to-make-fresh-move-for-derby-county-manager-10268646.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Starting to stink a little these proceedings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yes it is I said I wouldn't back McClaren not Derby County You loved McClaren not that long ago. A few weeks later and a few journalists spouting rubbish and you suddenly demand he's gone? Make your mind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 You loved McClaren not that long ago. A few weeks later and a few journalists spouting rubbish and you suddenly demand he's gone? Make your mind up Thanks for this, I was looking around for evidence of this hypocrisy earlier but couldn't find it. I knew his tune had changed suddenly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks for this, I was looking around for evidence of this hypocrisy earlier but couldn't find it. I knew his tune had changed suddenly...Its changed because of things like this http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footballpremier-league/steve-mcclaren-to-newcastle-magpies-ready-to-make-fresh-move-for-derby-county-manager-10268646.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 You loved McClaren not that long ago. A few weeks later and a few journalists spouting rubbish and you suddenly demand he's gone? Make your mind up These sort of things keep happening. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footballpremier-league/steve-mcclaren-to-newcastle-magpies-ready-to-make-fresh-move-for-derby-county-manager-10268646.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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