Albert Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 ...and they didn't look that bad either. Good times are to come. ...sorry... 24... Still very young though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It's okay, but you'll never win anything with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I just hope we can hang on to these kids and they will continue developing as players with the same pace they are doing now. In a few years they might get us back to the Premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Its interesting thinking about the youth development side now... Thinking about it this way (by year they broke into the first team for the first time, Italics represent the players first appearance with bold then showing when they became established): 2002: Holmes 2003: Huddlestone, Holmes 2004: 2005: Barnes, Addison 2006: 2007: 2008: Addison Then Nigel comes along: 2009: O'Brien 2010: Hendrick, Ball 2011: O'Brien, Hendrick, Mason So, in the 7 years before Nigel we'd only gotten 4 players out of the academy of any real quality (I may have forgotten someone), now suddenly we've got two in 3 years under Nigel with another two who look likely to in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Nathan Doyle, Lee Camp, Lee Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Lewin Nyatanga... It's strange how none really invoked much of a memory until mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I just hope we can hang on to these kids and they will continue developing as players with the same pace they are doing now. In a few years they might get us back to the Premier. Unless Manure or the rest come sniffing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The Championship seems to be the place for the development of young players. Whilst we are making significant progress, so too are many other teams who have featured players aged 23 and under. Reading; Karacan, Pearce, McCarthy, Morrison, Mills, Church, Robson-Kanu, Manset, Cummings, Obita Derby: Fielding, Bailey, Maguire, Robinson, Cywka, Obrien, Hendrick, Addison, Bennett Watford: Loach, Hodson, Deeney, Forsyth, Jenkins, Bauben, Sordell, Garner, Hogg Blackpool: Eardley, Bruna, Basham, Cathcart, Halstead, Hurst, Ince, Shelvey, McManaman Middlesboro: Steele, Bennett, Emnes, Williams, Hines, Martin, Nimely, Smallwood Peterboro; Little, Bennett, Wootton, Tomlin, Ball, Rowe, Tunnicliffe, Kearns, Burnley:Trippier, Rodriguez, Stanislas, Hines, Austin, Easton, Treacy, MacDonald, Mee Bristol: Spence, Nyatanga, Taylor, Bolasie, Wilson, Pitman, McGivern Cardiff; Kiss, Gestede, Gunnarson, Blake, Turner, Evans, Ibrahim, C Palace: Parr, Garvan, Scannell, Marrow; Zaha, Parsons, OKeefe, Hull; Chester, Hobbs, Evans, Cairney, Brady, Dudgeon, Gulacsi, Ipswich: Creswell, Emmanual-Thomas, Hyam, Smith, Carson, Wabara, Ainsley Brighton: Barnes, Lua Lua, Bridcutt, Dunk, Cook, Buckley Coventry: Hussey, Jutkiewicz, Deegan, Cameron, Thomas, Bigirimana Doncaster: Mason, Barnes, Bennett, Lalkovic, Woods Leeds: Howson, Clayton, Lees, White, Thompson Leicester: King, Johnson, Moussa, Waghorn, Schlupp Millwall: Trotter, Marquis, McQuoid, Henry, Simpson, WHU: Reid, Tompkins, Baldock, Collison, Sears, Lansbury N Forest: Anderson, McGugan, Gunter, Maloney, Southampton: Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana, Martin Portsmouth: Ward, Futacs, Henderson, Williams, Barnsley: Haynes, Butterfield, Drinkwater, Park, Birmingham: Mutch, Rooney, Redmond, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I think a lot of teams have good youngsters in their squad, we are also in that situation and what we need to do to back it up is to have a couple of wise heads on the pitch to guide them and help them along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Hdbg Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2011/10/football_league_votes_in_favou.html#299200]Youth overhall will damage Football League Strange, Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP), doesn't include the word 'shafted'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 The Championship seems to be the place for the development of young players. Whilst we are making significant progress, so too are many other teams who have featured players aged 23 and under. Reading; Karacan, Pearce, McCarthy, Morrison, Mills, Church, Robson-Kanu, Manset, Cummings, Obita Derby: Fielding, Bailey, Maguire, Robinson, Cywka, Obrien, Hendrick, Addison, Bennett Watford: Loach, Hodson, Deeney, Forsyth, Jenkins, Bauben, Sordell, Garner, Hogg Blackpool: Eardley, Bruna, Basham, Cathcart, Halstead, Hurst, Ince, Shelvey, McManaman Middlesboro: Steele, Bennett, Emnes, Williams, Hines, Martin, Nimely, Smallwood Peterboro; Little, Bennett, Wootton, Tomlin, Ball, Rowe, Tunnicliffe, Kearns, Burnley:Trippier, Rodriguez, Stanislas, Hines, Austin, Easton, Treacy, MacDonald, Mee Bristol: Spence, Nyatanga, Taylor, Bolasie, Wilson, Pitman, McGivern Cardiff; Kiss, Gestede, Gunnarson, Blake, Turner, Evans, Ibrahim, C Palace: Parr, Garvan, Scannell, Marrow; Zaha, Parsons, OKeefe, Hull; Chester, Hobbs, Evans, Cairney, Brady, Dudgeon, Gulacsi, Ipswich: Creswell, Emmanual-Thomas, Hyam, Smith, Carson, Wabara, Ainsley Brighton: Barnes, Lua Lua, Bridcutt, Dunk, Cook, Buckley Coventry: Hussey, Jutkiewicz, Deegan, Cameron, Thomas, Bigirimana Doncaster: Mason, Barnes, Bennett, Lalkovic, Woods Leeds: Howson, Clayton, Lees, White, Thompson Leicester: King, Johnson, Moussa, Waghorn, Schlupp Millwall: Trotter, Marquis, McQuoid, Henry, Simpson, WHU: Reid, Tompkins, Baldock, Collison, Sears, Lansbury N Forest: Anderson, McGugan, Gunter, Maloney, Southampton: Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana, Martin Portsmouth: Ward, Futacs, Henderson, Williams, Barnsley: Haynes, Butterfield, Drinkwater, Park, Birmingham: Mutch, Rooney, Redmond, Wood You missed Brayford and Ball, not that I'm one to talk about missing players on my eariler effort in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It does not matter how old you are, if you are not good enough, you are not good enough. You can not make a silk purse from a sows ear. To assume players will get better simply because they get older is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 You missed Brayford and Ball, not that I'm one to talk about missing players on my eariler effort in this thread. I only picked players born after 1987...therefore no Brayford and Ball hasn't featured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 ...and they didn't look that bad either. Good times are to come. ...sorry... 24... Still very young though. That cant be right. We had a 15 year old , 18 yr and 19 yr old. Not many I can think over 24; Croft Shackell and Roberts and I think only Roberts over 30. Quite a few young uns on the bench too, Doyle Cywka Maguire. Plus Bailey and Brayford out injured and Callum Ball stil kicking his heels. Not sure how many of these will make it, but hopefully we can keep bringing players through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Callum Ball has played, he came off the bench against Reading didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 8 minutes? p.s. even Doyle has more game time, and he hasnt done enough to count either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This whole exprience requirement is a total myth, look at how well Norwich have done in the Prem this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This whole exprience requirement is a total myth, look at how well Norwich have done in the Prem this season! You can't win games with longball tactics, but Stoke are doing alright... Experience does help a lot. It doesn't mean you can't live without it though. We're still playing kids, no matter how anyone tries to dress it up. Gareth Roberts is easily old enough to be Mason Benett's dad. Players are supposed to get on and have a great team spirit, but I think old Gareth might feel a bit wierd taking his best mate Mason out for a drink after a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 ...and they didn't look that bad either. Good times are to come. ...sorry... 24... Still very young though. It's promising but we need a bit more experience at the moment, and quality experience not just a Savage type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Gareth Roberts is easily old enough to be Mason Benett's dad. yikes....what are you suggesting???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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