uttoxram75 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Sorry, been very busy. Ahem, Hello, hello, hello, what have we here then? Yer hardly the SAS of the wum defence section are yer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Look, I've been busy, I'm tired, a bit stressed, this has never happened to me before darling honest. Maybe we can try again later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Do we really think the signings before this summer were Clough's first choices? It was obviously dictated by budget. I think he has just happy enough to have enough players on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 we had enough players last season, just not enough good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Even at the point of a bare subs bench and no cover in critical positions? We saw at the first part of the season with a fit squad and the top scorers still here what we could do. I think Nige deserves some credit for that, people on here were loving him then but refuse to acknowledge the problems that were not his fault since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 When will we give up on Clough? Surely as soon as the first pass goes astray against Birmingham....... The sad part of this is that for some people it will probably be true. Not just astray. If the pass is sideways or backwards too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Do we really think the signings before this summer were Clough's first choices? It was obviously dictated by budget. I think he has just happy enough to have enough players on the pitch. What ? none of his previous signings, or just the ones that did not work out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 What ? none of his previous signings, or just the ones that did not work out ? The majority, exceptions probably Cywka and Barker, maybe Brayford and Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I think all Cloughs signings have been brilliant, an absolute credit to the club! Anyone that disagrees is therefore gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcdavecov Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Hulse, Commons, Moxey, Varney. Would have all them over Bryson, Maguire, Tyson and Robinson. So neeerrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 well pringle has been awful as has deeney and i disagree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I think all Cloughs signings have been brilliant, an absolute credit to the club! Anyone that disagrees is therefore gay. Says the guy with the limpest wrist in town, with reguards to Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Says the guy with the limpest wrist in town, with reguards to Clough He'll be this clubs greatest ever manager, without a doubt.. you'll see.. you will all see :cautious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ram Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Which players did he get wrong TR? Lee Croft David Martin Saul Deeney Ben Pringle Chris Porter Michael Boulding Russell Anderson Dean Moxey Plus Loan players MooreNoble Hunt Sunu Martin (GK) Vidal Campbell Johnson Livermore StoorVaughan Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Lee Croft David Martin Saul Deeney Ben Pringle Chris Porter Michael Boulding Russell Anderson Dean Moxey Plus Loan players MooreNoble Hunt Sunu Martin (GK) Vidal Campbell Johnson Livermore StoorVaughan Hughes In fairness their wage all together probably doesn't cover Albrechtsen or Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Lee Croft David Martin Saul Deeney Ben Pringle Chris Porter Michael Boulding Russell Anderson Dean Moxey Plus Loan players MooreNoble Hunt Sunu Martin (GK) Vidal Campbell Johnson Livermore StoorVaughan Hughes Is that really the best you can do? Croft was wanted by loads of other championship clubs and most of us were pretty happy with the signing. Hindsight's wonderful, but on paper he was a good signing. Porter looked good until he got injured, as did Anderson - maybe you think Clough should have used his crystal ball to predict that they would get inured? Pringle and Deeney cost us almost nothing, and didn't let the club down when they played. Martin was a gamble that hasn't worked out because of the change in formation. Boulding was bought in to help the reserves out and has done that job. Moxey was the messiah as soon as he was sold, but as soon as someone else wants to prove a different point, he's dreadful. Weird that. The majority of those loan players did fine here - Moore, Hunt, Martin, Stoor etc played pretty well. The others were all pretty much very short term loans - Noble played 20 minutes and looked good for example - is that really worth moaning over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Stop being sensible and well reasoned duncan it's just not on, please ignore all dynamics of given situations and rely only on knee jerk shortsighted judgement. Thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 hunt played well? if anyone can justify the signing of michael boulding then they have something seriously wrong, he was bought in for back up for some reason. Moore to me wasn't much good compared to kuqi, deeney didn't let the club down, you mean like he didn't get sent off martin was signed on the basis he played well against us and that was pointless, same with pringle. Croft didn't work out because he wasn't good enough simple as, still better than ben davies, also if all these players were so great why did we finish 19th and 14th when we were 3 points away from 20th in the 14th season? why haven't we finished in the top half if our players and manager are so good? or is it that they aren't good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Boulding was never really signed was he, cost us nothing so who cares. The Deeney sending of was comparable to just about any other keeper in this division, bit of a lame argument much like all your posts. Croft had a good start but lost confidence, Martin had a few good games but maybe Clough had a change of mind? Wouldnt be the first manager to do that would he. Why haven't we finished top half? Paper thin squad and limited wage budget that doesn't allow Clough to sign crazy signings like Leicester, Cardiff, florist etc etc I know it's hard to grasp for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 hunt played well? if anyone can justify the signing of michael boulding then they have something seriously wrong, he was bought in for back up for some reason. Moore to me wasn't much good compared to kuqi, deeney didn't let the club down, you mean like he didn't get sent off martin was signed on the basis he played well against us and that was pointless, same with pringle. Croft didn't work out because he wasn't good enough simple as, still better than ben davies, also if all these players were so great why did we finish 19th and 14th when we were 3 points away from 20th in the 14th season? why haven't we finished in the top half if our players and manager are so good? or is it that they aren't good enough? Using your trusted Wikipedia stats Kuqi: 12 games, 2 goals Moore: 13 games, 4 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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