Uptherams Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Probably Dominic Cummings fault. To be fair, I don't know what I'm seeing. Might need to go for a drive and test my eyesight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: Yeah, that's what I thought too. The VP of the USA is irresponsibly allowing loads of older, and more vulnerable people to be really close together so he can campaign to them. (I assume you think this a good idea then @Uptherams?) Then some young kids are messing about in the street after the pubs shut. I would have thought the likes of @Uptherams and @maxjam would have celebrated people in the UK bravely defying the authorities, whilst also been concerned that older people in the US are putting themselves at risk. I'm sure they have argued for these types of people to be shielded so the kids can have a normal life. Young kids? How old are ya ? I dunno what the rules are in the US, I barely know what they are in the UK anymore lol - maybe foolhardy but perhaps that kind of gathering is allowed over there? Not sure shutting the pubs at 10pm and rule of 6 was meant to inspire those kinda gatherings in London however. I guess people are getting sick of the rules and managing their own risk. Its going to be interesting in the run up to Christmas if they lock down the North? Thats gonna end well if they see a lot of Londoners partying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I thought we had identified that most of the cases were starting in pubs? I cant think of any other reason why people would be advocating them being closed. Who knows what your man Johnson is up too these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Insane. Clearly most of them were suffering respiratory problems, beating their chests like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Not that you care about what people in our country are doing. Also seems stupid. Pretty sure you aren't allowed to meet up in groups over 6 people. They should be fined. But I thought you were ok with people doing this right? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said: Who knows what your man Johnson is up too these days! Not my man and as this is not the politics thread not sure why you have said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, G STAR RAM said: Not my man and as this is not the politics thread not sure why you have said that? I'm still in shock that him and his crew have turned out to be hopeless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Also seems stupid. Pretty sure you aren't allowed to meet up in groups over 6 people. They should be fined. But I thought you were ok with people doing this right? I'm confused. So you do understand the rules in the UK and how they don't apply to the US ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: I'm still in shock that him and his crew have turned out to be hopeless! Like I said, not the politics thread so not sure what you want me to say. I think the handling of the situation has become more farcical by the day. But I also think with the country still finding itself so polarised they are damned whichever path they take. Hindsight is a wonderful tool at times like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Uptherams said: So you do understand the rules in the UK and how they don't apply to the US ? But also understands that it would be completely unfashionable and politically incorrect to criticise certain sections of the population for breaching the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Apparent new lockdown rules for high level regions (TIER 3 lockdown). Measures expected to include: - pubs, gyms, casinos, bookies CLOSED - restaurants OPEN - could last 6 MONTHS, but with monthly reviews Understand local leaders have agreed this in principle but await PM's official sign-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: But also understands that it would be completely unfashionable and politically incorrect to criticise certain sections of the population for breaching the rules. It's perfectly acceptable to criticise Londoner's. They're so irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This is just plain sick. Using Corona as an excuse to unleash yet another round of austerity on the NHS when people need it like never before is an absolute outrage. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/oct/11/hospital-bosses-urge-nhs-england-to-drop-unfair-fines-as-covid-admissions-rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Apparent new lockdown rules for high level regions (TIER 3 lockdown). Measures expected to include: - pubs, gyms, casinos, bookies CLOSED - restaurants OPEN - could last 6 MONTHS, but with monthly reviews Understand local leaders have agreed this in principle but await PM's official sign-off I think it would be an outrage to close gyms, goes completely against the health message Boris has been pushing. Gyms must shut, but McDonald's must stay open! The below slide shows exposure settings outside of work and education (where the vast majority are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: This is just plain sick. Using Corona as an excuse to unleash yet another round of austerity on the NHS when people need it like never before is an absolute outrage. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/oct/11/hospital-bosses-urge-nhs-england-to-drop-unfair-fines-as-covid-admissions-rise It’s nothing new, the NHS has to hit targets for all sorts of things in order not to get fined. It’s kind of how the NHS works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I don't think the quote is about the NHS, more that people's finances are stretched to breaking point and there is little state support available to help, hence people can't miss work. They are trying to get governments to pay people more to stay at home during lockdowns to incentivise compliance to the rules. They (WHO) believe it is the only effective way of doing lockdown without it being a massive social injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: I thought we had identified that most of the cases were starting in pubs? I cant think of any other reason why people would be advocating them being closed. No, it’s not that they believe most cases are being started in pubs. They do however know that by closing pubs they will reduce infection rates by a certain amount based upon the data models. They don’t think it will stop Covid being spread, just slow it from being spread at the rate we are currently experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, jimmyp said: They are trying to get governments to pay people more to stay at home during lockdowns to incentivise compliance to the rules. They (WHO) believe it is the only effective way of doing lockdown without it being a massive social injustice. Which is completely obvious to anyone with common sense, no one is going to give up 2 weeks pay if they don't have to. Let alone people who literally cannot afford to miss out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 hours ago, TexasRam said: Interesting stats from around Europe You should stop posting misinformation. It’s very unhelpful especially to those who are struggling to understand Covid. COVID IS NOT THE FLU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, jimmyp said: You should stop posting misinformation. It’s very unhelpful especially to those who are struggling to understand Covid. COVID IS NOT THE FLU What misinformation has been posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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