MuespachRam Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think that the passing of time has messed with people's minds... Hulse, Beuno, Keane, Ayala etc were all bang average players at our place, nowhere near good enough to get us promoted. My starting 11 would be Hughes, Martin, Ince and then you can throw any 8 in there from that great big pile of steaming average players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: I think that the passing of time has messed with people's minds... Hulse, Beuno, Keane, Ayala etc were all bang average players at our place, nowhere near good enough to get us promoted. My starting 11 would be Hughes, Martin, Ince and then you can throw any 8 in there from that great big pile of steaming average players. Bet they would have walked into the Rowdys team with ease tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: I think that the passing of time has messed with people's minds... Hulse, Beuno, Keane, Ayala etc were all bang average players at our place, nowhere near good enough to get us promoted. My starting 11 would be Hughes, Martin, Ince and then you can throw any 8 in there from that great big pile of steaming average players. Another well argued point............. Hulse - When fit, and had a run of games, he scored goals, some of them vital. Beuno - When Nigel had Kuqi upfront in a 4-2-3-1, he was frightening. Admittedly he tailed of during the winter, but by that time we'd reverted to the 4-4-2 survival ball we all knew and loved. Keane & Ayala - I'll agree with you on those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: I think that the passing of time has messed with people's minds... Hulse, Beuno, Keane, Ayala etc were all bang average players at our place, nowhere near good enough to get us promoted. My starting 11 would be Hughes, Martin, Ince and then you can throw any 8 in there from that great big pile of steaming average players. I'd have Commons up there I think - Admittedly he was a little like Ward in that he looked a great player in an average side but I think he had a touch of class And (maybe controversial) but Barker in his prime was as good a stopper as any defender in the league - Not the kind of classy footballer Keogh is but in the 'keep it simple' mould he was excellent And I think you're also being harsh on a number of players in the current squad - I think Vydra is still going to come good for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 18 hours ago, cheron85 said: Ayala now is decent but I don't remember him being fantastic for us... I was just picking the team from their best spells at any club! Not just ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: I was just picking the team from their best spells at any club! Not just ours In which case I'd have Keane in there ahead of Shackell - Stubbs from his Everton days Savage at his peak? Bannan and Hendrie must be in with a shout somewhere based on peak seasons? David Jones? Kilbane? Riggott? Baird? Maybe even Albentosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 6 hours ago, ramsbottom said: Another well argued point............. Hulse - When fit, and had a run of games, he scored goals, some of them vital. Beuno - When Nigel had Kuqi upfront in a 4-2-3-1, he was frightening. Admittedly he tailed of during the winter, but by that time we'd reverted to the 4-4-2 survival ball we all knew and loved. Keane & Ayala - I'll agree with you on those Hulse was ok....just ok...he wouldn't make it anywhere near our current first team squad and neither would Beuno. We have much better players currently in the same positions as both of those played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 16 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Hulse was ok....just ok...he wouldn't make it anywhere near our current first team squad and neither would Beuno. We have much better players currently in the same positions as both of those played. You're right, Russell, Anya, Kamara & Weimann are much better than Bueno I'll grant you Ince is more effective, but they're probably par on technique. At fit & firing Hulse is well on par with Martin & The Nuge. A couple of grams of what you're snorting please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 hours ago, ramsbottom said: You're right, Russell, Anya, Kamara & Weimann are much better than Bueno I'll grant you Ince is more effective, but they're probably par on technique. At fit & firing Hulse is well on par with Martin & The Nuge. A couple of grams of what you're snorting please!!! I am better than Bueno....and the Nuge and Martins career records I am sure will be better than Hulses..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 10/05/2017 at 10:56, MuespachRam said: I think that the passing of time has messed with people's minds... Hulse, Beuno, Keane, Ayala etc were all bang average players at our place, nowhere near good enough to get us promoted. My starting 11 would be Hughes, Martin, Ince and then you can throw any 8 in there from that great big pile of steaming average players. ye just shows how derby dont recognise talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: I am better than Bueno....and the Nuge and Martins career records I am sure will be better than Hulses..? In that case, I'm sure your steady career in La Liga must make you very proud. Much more satisfying than being the scouse hating keyboard warrior you are in-between training sessions surely? Career Goals Rob Hulse - Apps 395 - Goals 123 - A goal every 3.2 games Martin - Apps 361 - Goals 108 - A goal every 3.3 games The Nuge - Apps 549 - Gols 141 - A goal every 3.9 games You sure he'd get nowhere near the side??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 39 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: In that case, I'm sure your steady career in La Liga must make you very proud. I think you're doing him a bit of a disservice there. Goal or an assist every 163 minutes in La Liga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, cannable said: I think you're doing him a bit of a disservice there. Goal or an assist every 163 minutes in La Liga! Christ!!! @MuespachRam must be knocking on an England call up if he can beat those stats, while playing in one of the best technical leagues in the world. Dear Mr Rowett, If you're having a cheeky look on here, I think I may have found a player worth investing our time in. DM me back for more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 10 hours ago, ramsbottom said: Christ!!! @MuespachRam must be knocking on an England call up if he can beat those stats, while playing in one of the best technical leagues in the world. Dear Mr Rowett, If you're having a cheeky look on here, I think I may have found a player worth investing our time in. DM me back for more details. but as someone has already said...we are talking about when they played for us...otherwise Savage would be one of the first names on the team sheet.... (and you have to admit that Bueno was totally bang average, probably not that good, when he played for us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 10:17, RamsPolls said: Couldn't this have been posted in this thread It's because he has a personal target to get to 20000 likes before the start of the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 6 hours ago, MuespachRam said: but as someone has already said...we are talking about when they played for us...otherwise Savage would be one of the first names on the team sheet.... (and you have to admit that Bueno was totally bang average, probably not that good, when he played for us) I've heard it all now... If I had that opinion of Bueno we wouldn't be having this discussion would we??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: I've heard it all now... If I had that opinion of Bueno we wouldn't be having this discussion would we??? In his prime you can't deny that savage was a very good player...(I still thought he was ok at our place actually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: In his prime you can't deny that savage was a very good player...(I still thought he was ok at our place actually) he did a job for his respective teams, no doubt about it, but a very good player? No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 8 hours ago, MuespachRam said: but as someone has already said...we are talking about when they played for us...otherwise Savage would be one of the first names on the team sheet.... (and you have to admit that Bueno was totally bang average, probably not that good, when he played for us) Surprised @David hasn't had something to say about this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, rynny said: Surprised @David hasn't had something to say about this! I just shook my head in disgust and scrolled past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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