Sexydadbod Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Look what happens when we play this formation! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Carson Christie Keogh Shackell Lowe Hughes Thorne Russell Ince Vydra Nugent Mitchell Pearce Butterfield Johnson Bryson Bent Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Considering this was our first 'proper' try at this 'new' formation, I think it worked quite well. It will take a while for everyone to properly know their 'new' roles. Could this finally be Steve's Plan B ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: Considering this was our first 'proper' try at this 'new' formation, I think it worked quite well. It will take a while for everyone to properly know their 'new' roles. Could this finally be Steve's Plan B ? Or could it be an improved plan A? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 If the players have confidence in it and it works with the opposition not being able to deal with it I will take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On 25/02/2017 at 18:37, McLovin said: Looks like it's getting to the point where I may need to create a banner saying to change the formation. 4-3-3 doesn't work with the current group! Maybe next season when Thorne is back and Martin in the pivot but not now. Oh ffs I didn't think about that when Martin signed his new contract. I'm going to have to read the word 'pivot' all the time again next season aren't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, StringerBell said: Oh ffs I didn't think about that when Martin signed his new contract. I'm going to have to read the word 'pivot' all the time again next season aren't I? We could agree to use "fulcrum" if you're into mig 29s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: We could agree to use "fulcrum" if you're into mig 29s? I do like migs! For football related purposes I'll stick with describing Martin as a target man and stick to seething whenever I hear anything else. Although if people insist on using joinery related names, be it pivot, kingpin or wardrobe, I could accept lazy Susan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 19 hours ago, StringerBell said: I do like migs! For football related purposes I'll stick with describing Martin as a target man and stick to seething whenever I hear anything else. Although if people insist on using joinery related names, be it pivot, kingpin or wardrobe, I could accept lazy Susan. Plane to see you dovetailed nicely into the joinery puns would join in but it goes against the grain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, archied said: Plane to see you dovetailed nicely into the joinery puns would join in but it goes against the grain 2 for the price of 1. Twice! You could have worked a crop duster pun in there at the end though for a hattrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Football really is a simple game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: Football really is a simple game. It is, makes a huge difference when the players put a shift in. Not sure why you bumped this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, David said: It is, makes a huge difference when the players put a shift in. Not sure why you bumped this though. They tried under McClaren, the formation and tactics was the issue. The 4-3-3 left the striker(Bent) incredibly isolated especially with no midfield runners or a Cdm who can spray it around. 4-2-3-1 allows the team to have a solid foundation with the 2 holding midfield and gets support to the front man. It's no surprise that both Vydra and Nugent are performing better now they have got support(each other). Even Chris Powell said before the game that him and McClaren had a discussion a few weeks before he got sacked and decided that 4-2-3-1 would be the best way to go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Yes players win games but formations provide the basis for the players to go out and win. Those who say formations don't matter , explain why Barcelona and Chelsea saw an unturn in form when switching to 3 at the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, McLovin said: They tried under McClaren, the formation and tactics was the issue. The 4-3-3 left the striker(Bent) incredibly isolated especially with no midfield runners or a Cdm who can spray it around. 4-2-3-1 allows the team to have a solid foundation with the 2 holding midfield and gets support to the front man. It's no surprise that both Vydra and Nugent are performing better now they have got support(each other). Even Chris Powell said before the game that him and McClaren had a discussion a few weeks before he got sacked and decided that 4-2-3-1 would be the best way to go forward. I didn't see much trying at Brighton. Football is simple like you say though, play players in their position and actually press the opposition, move forward quickly and you create the space that gives you the opportunity to create chances. You can do that in a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and any formation you can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Some forward thinking good football tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Funny how I made this thread at the start of the year and how form was better when we used 4-2-3-1 at the end of last season but for some reason our managers think 4-3-3 is our best formation. I do sometimes wonder what managers see that mere mortals like myself cannot see. We have no midfield runners to play 4-3-3 and are wingers are w*** so I'm not surprised that Martin becomes isolated which results in us having no attacking threat. Ladies and gentlemen 4-3-3 is finished. It's time to move on from the McClaren era. As the famous quote goes, football is a simple game that is made complicated by idiots. 4-3-3 has been dead for ages. Pearson saw this but went the wrong way about solving it but he knew 4-3-3 was dead, despite many criticising him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 On 11/02/2017 at 17:44, Derbylad92 said: I said this weeks ago but got slated because managers tried changing the formation and its not worked and its not 'the derby way' Looks like we were proved right, 4-3-3 is dead with our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 433 has never, and will never, work with a midfield two as static as butterfield and Johnson. As soon as that team sheet came out, we had no chance. Yet why do our managers not see this? Rowetts had the time now surely to realise that this won't work, sometimes I really do wonder whether I'm missing something with some decisions that are made. We switched to a 4231 with vydra in the hole at the back end of last season, won 3 games on the spin- then we ditched it?! As soon as we reverted to 433 our play fell apart, yet we persist with trying to play it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Today also suggests to me that Rowett didn't do as much homework for this particular game as he should have. Martin against 3 centre backs? Yeah that was never going to end well. Against 3 centre backs especially, you need at least 2 proper forwards from the start otherwise your main forward becomes too isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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