3 at the back?

[Van der MoodHoover]

We're all violently agreeing the idea has merits .

So.....4411 for the season it is then, along with copious psychological coaching so we're better able to "hang in there" when we're not playing well.

If that transpires then although it's still a 46 game season I sense it will feel a lot longer. .....

[cheron85]

On 13/08/2016 at 17:27, McLovin said:

Firstly I need to say that I'm willing to give the new formation a chance but for it to be effective we need some specialists. I don't think we have enough wingers to play 4-4-1-1 currently. It is quite clear we aren't going back to 4-3-3 because Pearson appears bullish to me and is known not to like 4-3-3. In pre season a number of us suggested a 3-5-2 formation because this formation doesn't rely on wingers. This formation also allows us to have the control in midfield as well as having 2 strikers. I don't think we gave it enough time in pre season personally as we only used it for 30 minutes against a quality Benfica side. When Leicester were struggling in the prem, Pearson changed the formation to 3-5-2 and it worked brilliantly,ultimately keeping Leicester up. Could this formation be our gem?

I'm an advocate of a 3-2-2-2-1 formation myself... Played it for a while on FM back in the day (I know, I know... Booooo Football games...)... However I don't think we now have enough CBs for 3 at the back now (unless you use Fozzy as a LCB?)

Something like:

                GK

          CB CB CB

RWB                    LWB

            CM CM

   RF                    LF

                ST

[JW37]

I'd be up for 3 at the back.

Pearson wants 2 up front and likes Ince centrally

But we don't have the midfielders for a flat 4

With no signings:

                              Carson

             Keogh      Pearce    Shackell

Christie                Thorne                       Olsson

                  Bryson           Hughes

               Martin                     Ince

• Wingbacks can get forward more
• Gets the control of the midfield back with Bryson/Hughes not having to track back as much
• Gives Thorne 6 forward passing options
• Still gives you 2 up front

[Scott_dcfc]

31 minutes ago, JW37 said:

I'd be up for 3 at the back.

Pearson wants 2 up front and likes Ince centrally

But we don't have the midfielders for a flat 4

With no signings:

                              Carson

             Keogh      Pearce    Shackell

Christie                Thorne                       Olsson

                  Bryson           Hughes

               Martin                     Ince

• Wingbacks can get forward more
• Gets the control of the midfield back with Bryson/Hughes not having to track back as much
• Gives Thorne 6 forward passing options
• Still gives you 2 up front

Me like.

[Premier ram]

all good ideas , but Thorne seems to be in most of them and god knows if he will be fit by xmas , dont think we can wait that long

[Ninos]

5 hours ago, Rampage said:

8 at the back? Might save crepe defeats at Barnsley. If you cannot play, then defend, hello!

Is that like defeats where we are as flat as a pancake ? 

[SkeggyRam]

Rawson as the middle CB for me if we went 3 at the back

[Gary Teale]

It worked well for 30mins against Benfica. So well Pearson hasn't played it since

[SkeggyRam]

2 minutes ago, emjlc02 said:

It worked well for 30mins against Benfica. So well Pearson hasn't played it since

yeah this 4411 working a lot better

[Gary Teale]

35 minutes ago, SkeggyRam said:

yeah this 4411 working a lot better

Yet Pearson who has seen both and worked on both sees it as the better option. 

[SkeggyRam]

4 minutes ago, emjlc02 said:

Yet Pearson who has seen both and worked on both sees it as the better option. 

seems to think Brysons a better option then Hughes too

[Rampage]

1 hour ago, Ninos said:

Is that like defeats where we are as flat as a pancake ? 

Flat back 8 - Pancake Formation? 

[Van der MoodHoover]

6 hours ago, emjlc02 said:

Yet Pearson who has seen both and worked on both sees it as the better option. 

Not aware how much he has worked with our team in training with 352 but I don't think only playing it for 30 mins in our first pre season match against vastly superor opponents is enough to base a season long appraisal on.

In any case, didn't we get our bottoms spanked even worse against benfica when we changed away from the 352?

[Sexydadbod]

Bump. I was willing to give the new formation time but after seeing it in action for more than a month, I think a change of formation might be needed. If it's true that Bamba is close to signing that will give us the option to play 3 at the back. Here's the team I suggest(bare in mind I made this thread before the new signings arrived):

                                  Carson

               Keogh     Pearce/Shacks      Bamba

Christie             Bryson        Johnson                  Anya

                                   Hughes

                           Ince

                                       Vydra

[kingsy1884]

3 at the back can look pretty but name me 1 team in England that had used it to success in recent times.

If you want protection go 4-3-3. 3 at the back will never work. 

[Sexydadbod]

1 minute ago, kingsy1884 said:

3 at the back can look pretty but name me 1 team in England that had used it to success in recent times.

If you want protection go 4-3-3. 3 at the back will never work. 

Pearson's Leicester used it for the great escape in the premier league.

[Sparkle]

 We have all these! 

             Grant

christie Keogh shackell Forsyth 

.             Thorne

.       Hughes Bryson 

ince Martin Vydra 

ok forsyth and Thorne are crocked but surely Hanson and anya can step in.

[wixman1884]

1 minute ago, Sparkle said:

 We have all these! 

             Grant

christie Keogh shackell Forsyth 

.             Thorne

.       Hughes Bryson 

ince Martin Vydra 

ok forsyth and Thorne are crocked but surely Hanson and anya can step in.

If that team was fully fit, I'd be confident at Wassall or McClaren getting them promoted.

[Sparkle]

2 minutes ago, wixman1884 said:

If that team was fully fit, I'd be confident at Wassall or McClaren getting them promoted.

With the likes of Russell and Weiman Johnson and butterfield covering for injuries and subs plus the kids 

[brady1993]

1 hour ago, McLovin said:

Bump. I was willing to give the new formation time but after seeing it in action for more than a month, I think a change of formation might be needed. If it's true that Bamba is close to signing that will give us the option to play 3 at the back. Here's the team I suggest(bare in mind I made this thread before the new signings arrived):

                                  Carson

               Keogh     Pearce/Shacks      Bamba

Christie             Bryson        Johnson                  Anya

                                   Hughes

                           Ince

                                       Vydra

I wouldn't mind this. But the big problem I can foresee is the Lcb needs have a yard of pace to cover the wing back and be somewhat savvy on the ball . The only player at the club who would remotely fit this bill is forsyth but he's injured.