Day Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Manchester United are facing a repairs bill running into thousands of pounds because of alleged misbehaviour by supporters that has had a knock-on effect for the security arrangements surrounding their FA Cup tie at Shrewsbury Town next Monday. The Premier League club will be asked to compensate Derby County after a significant number of seats were damaged in the away end when the two teams met in the FA Cup fourth round, resulting in a 3-1 win for Louis van Gaal’s team. Derby have already informed United about what their ground staff found on the morning after the match and intend to charge the Old Trafford club for the relevant repairs, alleging that more than 300 seats were broken or in some cases pulled off whole. That, in turn, is one of the principal reasons why Shrewsbury have abandoned plans to increase the 9,875 capacity at New Meadow with temporary seating when they host United for a place in the quarter-finals. Read More: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/16/manchester-united-repairs-bill-after-300-seats-damaged-fans-derby?CMP=share_btn_tw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarboroughwa Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Gee, all this after a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBrows Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Maybe thats why there was an uplift in ticket proces ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Isn't controlling the fans at the iPro the responsibility of Derby County? Seems it a bit odd to turn around and say that we couldn't control the fans properly so you have to pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 repairs to the away end have always been subject to charging the away team for. Or were you implying we need to recoup the money for some other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 And so the cost of football goes up,always the many suffer for the few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, davenportram said: repairs to the away end have always been subject to charging the away team for. Or were you implying we need to recoup the money for some other reason. Is that really the case - I didn't know that. Not implying anything, it just seems a little odd that our stewards, cctv, hired police and security arrangements have proven inadequate so we ask Man U to pay for the damage. If it is the accepted arrangement then fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Bloody North Standers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Is that really the case - I didn't know that. Not implying anything, it just seems a little odd that our stewards, cctv, hired police and security arrangements have proven inadequate so we ask Man U to pay for the damage. If it is the accepted arrangement then fair enough. Every decision made a sports ground arround safety is a "risk based" judgement. If stewards had been deployed into a crowd of 5000 away supporters obviously embarking on wilful destruction, what do you think would have been the outcome? Damaged people not damaged seats. All employers have a legal duty not to wilfully endager their staff unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Eatonram said: Every decision made a sports ground arround safety is a "risk based" judgement. If stewards had been deployed into a crowd of 5000 away supporters obviously embarking on wilful destruction, what do you think would have been the outcome? Damaged people not damaged seats. All employers have a legal duty not to wilfully endager their staff unnecessarily. I get that, but why is it Man U's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I get that, but why is it Man U's fault? Because there's absolutely no incentive for away fans to behave if their club will never be punished for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Just now, Anon said: Because there's absolutely no incentive for away fans to behave if their club will never be punished for their actions. Other than basic human decency and the risks inherent in acting illegally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Cos their fans did it? Otherwise just trash what you like and say you weren't controlled properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I suppose when Leeds and Chelsea absolutely trashed the Ossie Stand in the 80s that was Derbys fault? Actually, I think we got fined!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Are we just trying to get the Hartlepool handout money back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Other than basic human decency and the risks inherent in acting illegally Basic human decency . I think I remember that from school history textbooks. It would cost more than is practical to prosecute for paltry individual fines. If Man U were interested I'm sure they could ask us for the CCTV footage and ban anyone shown engaging in vandalism from buying tickets. Something tells me they wont. And to think they have the temerity to moan about scousers, ******* manc scallys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Isn't it to do with the fact that ticket revenue is split for cup games? If Man Utd fans cause damage surely their club should take responsibility for that? Collective responsibility comes down to the organisation who sold them the tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Nobody blamed Mel Morris yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think derby should find out who had those seats and be made to pay for them and poor season tickets holders should get a discount on those seats through no fault of there own. It is alright the club sending manchester united the bill. But idouts fans who had them should be punished for it. They would less likely to break seats again if it is hitting there own back pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: I think derby should find out who had those seats and be made to pay for them and poor season tickets holders should get a discount on those seats through no fault of there own. It is alright the club sending manchester united the bill. But idouts fans who had them should be punished for it. They would less likely to break seats again if it is hitting there own back pockets. merged into the existing thread B4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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