mozza Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Pleased for Andy , but i'd say Djokovic is a nicer character , true gent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61GT Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just like to echo all the positive comments here, fantastic achievement - Well done Andy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 On 28/01/2016 at 09:14, David said: Tennis will never be that popular until they make it a more accessible sport to play whoever is number 1. Grassroots football complain at the lack of funds but you can pick up a ball and go play in your garden, in a field, on the street wherever. In Derby now where can a kid with no money go and play tennis? It's ok having fitness clubs with these fancy courts but you only get to those at an older age and too late to turn pro. Most tennis players are from families with money behind them, my Charlie plays tennis down the Country Club, oh ratherrrrr Markeaton Park, Alvaston Park etc... There's all over the concrete courts and the nets are wonky but I never said it was Centre Court at Wimbledon. You need only grab a couple of rackets and a ball and you turn up and play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Tombo said: Markeaton Park, Alvaston Park etc... There's all over the concrete courts and the nets are wonky but I never said it was Centre Court at Wimbledon. You need only grab a couple of rackets and a ball and you turn up and play I'll reply in a years time to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, David said: I'll reply in a years time to this The thread got reignited for some odd reason, so I'm only just reading through it. I don't care how old the post is, if I've got something to say, I'll say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 20 hours ago, Zag zig said: Have you ever seen Djokovic make sooo many unforced errors against Murray or anyone of late in a major final? Murray has truly broken the big 3 stranglehold and he's right up there with them on merit. He was always going to reach or surpass Federer's level as he got older. Six years between those two! Crazy how Nadal just seemingly hit a brick wall. He was at a level and age where record grand slams was a realistic target, yet his level just dropped so much and he's only a year older than Djokovic and Murray. Djokovic is one of the best, but I can't help but think a lot of his recent success has come as a result of next to no competition. It seems like Murray and the occasional wonder performance from Wawrinka has denied him. There is nobody else who is at a world class level. The tennis era right now is in a pretty bad state after the highs of six, seven or eight years ago in terms of top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: He was always going to reach or surpass Federer's level as he got older. Six years between those two! Crazy how Nadal just seemingly hit a brick wall. He was at a level and age where record grand slams was a realistic target, yet his level just dropped so much and he's only a year older than Djokovic and Murray. Djokovic is one of the best, but I can't help but think a lot of his recent success has come as a result of next to no competition. It seems like Murray and the occasional wonder performance from Wawrinka has denied him. There is nobody else who is at a world class level. The tennis era right now is in a pretty bad state after the highs of six, seven or eight years ago in terms of top players. On the other hand, just possibly Djokovic and Murray are two of the four greatest most complete players who have ever lived. I'm uncomfortable trying to compare players across eras, because training and equipment have improved so much year-on-year that such comparisons tend to descend into favouritism and clouded judgements. 7 or 8 years ago is was still essentially a 2-player shootout with Federer and Nadal the dominant pair, and Murray and Djokovic only just starting to make an impression. Where I will agree is there doesn't appear to be a raft of 22-year-old players looking to push Djokovic and Murray. Maybe Raonic has the best chance, but he's 25 and Nishikori is 26. Dominic Thiem and Lucas Pouille might look to threaten, but beyond them there's not a lot. Nick Kyrgios is a huge talent but his own worst enemy, so my tip for the next player to really push the big two is Kyle Edmond (see my above comment about clouded judgement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, eddie said: On the other hand, just possibly Djokovic and Murray are two of the four greatest most complete players who have ever lived. I'm uncomfortable trying to compare players across eras, because training and equipment have improved so much year-on-year that such comparisons tend to descend into favouritism and clouded judgements. 7 or 8 years ago is was still essentially a 2-player shootout with Federer and Nadal the dominant pair, and Murray and Djokovic only just starting to make an impression. Where I will agree is there doesn't appear to be a raft of 22-year-old players looking to push Djokovic and Murray. Maybe Raonic has the best chance, but he's 25 and Nishikori is 26. Dominic Thiem and Lucas Pouille might look to threaten, but beyond them there's not a lot. Nick Kyrgios is a huge talent but his own worst enemy, so my tip for the next player to really push the big two is Kyle Edmond (see my above comment about clouded judgement) I just don't see Murray and Djokovic as anywhere near as good, technically, as some of the big names before them. Both are among not only the best athletes in tennis, but in any sport in terms of fitness and duration. Both are among the best ever in returning, defensive tennis. Better than Federer IMO. But in terms of ball striking, finesse, technical ability, I just don't think they are in that elite level. If you could mix Fed's ball striking skills, Djokovic's fitness and Murray's returning skills, you'd have the complete player. Federer IMO is technically the best ever player and by some way in terms of ball-striking, but I think Nadal has had the best all-round game of any player to have played tennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Sir Andy Murray..... Cringe, the BBC commentators at Wimbledon will love saying that, even though he doesn't want them to. Surely knighthoods should be only given after sportsmen have retired rather than whilst they're still playing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 hours ago, McLovin said: Sir Andy Murray..... Cringe, the BBC commentators at Wimbledon will love saying that, even though he doesn't want them to. Surely knighthoods should be only given after sportsmen have retired rather than whilst they're still playing ? Sir Jake Buxton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Normal service continues... Murray wins his 28th successive match, meets Djokovic in the final at Doha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Djokovic knocked out of the Australian Open by Dennis Istomin. Dennis's aunt doesn't like it down under as it's too hot. She is a big hay fever sufferer apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 51 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: Djokovic knocked out of the Australian Open by Dennis Istomin. Dennis's aunt doesn't like it down under as it's too hot. She is a big hay fever sufferer apparently. Nadal looked very good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 59 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: Djokovic knocked out of the Australian Open by Dennis Istomin. Dennis's aunt doesn't like it down under as it's too hot. She is a big hay fever sufferer apparently. he is only ranked 103 so thats nothing to sneeze at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: he is only ranked 103 so thats nothing to sneeze at. Perhaps he needs atishoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Dan Evans adds the scalp of Tomic to that of Cilic to get through to the last 16 where he will play Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 19/01/2017 at 12:44, Tony Le Mesmer said: Djokovic knocked out of the Australian Open by Dennis Istomin. Dennis's aunt doesn't like it down under as it's too hot. She is a big hay fever sufferer apparently. Very harsh. That joke istomin. Apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 23 hours ago, eddie said: Dan Evans adds the scalp of Tomic to that of Cilic to get through to the last 16 where he will play Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. It is good to see we have at least a couple of players with some potential other than Murray, Kyle Edmund is still young, maybe for Dan Evans this is his peak as he is getting on now (in relative terms). Joahnna Konta has done well at an older age (for tennis players to break through) though. The promise showed by Heather Watson and Laura Robson early on seems to have not delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Johanna Konta has done well at an older age (for tennis players to break through) though. At 24 (last year) could argue she was only a couple of years older than some, she's still got a good few years ahead of her at the top. Dispatched Wozniacki pretty clinically today. Love her grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Can't believe the incredible achievement by Federer has yet to be mentioned. Not only winning a grand slam at 35 but also in his first proper tournament for 6 months and to top it off, finally beating his true rival for the first time in a major final for nearly 10 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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