SaintRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Daveo said: What a loada ****** that is, imagine being a true Trinidadian being kept out the team by him. Owen Hargreaves playing for England having never even lived here didn't sit right with me either and Chris Martin for Scotland is another joke Christie for Ireland (grandparent) Martin for Scotland (parent) and then of course recently Dawkins for Jamaica (born in Edgware, England) but I don't know what level of ancestry helped him qualify. Diego Costa for Spain is another high profile one, although that was citizenship. I've never really understood the rule or why it was created, I can understand being able to represent a country if you weren't born there but become a citizen of it. I don't understand why your grandparents matter. Parents I can sort of understand, especially if their both from the same place elsewhere. But it just seems to play into the hands of the bigger countries. Wasn't it both Klose and Podolski that are actually Polish but formed a formidable partnership for Germany instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, Daveo said: Nope, I don't think you have to be born in the country but spend the majority of your life in the country you are representing. Doesnt make any sense that I could go live in Congo for 9 years and represent them in football. Why stop at countries? I was born in Gillingham - shouldn't I be duty-bound to support them? I bowled for Leicestershire for many years - but the only affiliation I have to the county is that I (only just) live there. Every qualification that enables you to represent a team, whether by residence, parents, place of birth etc is arbitrary - and your pet hobby-horse on the subject has no better - or worse - credentials than anybody else's. You could argue that Derby County have no right to purchase players from outside the region. I don't see any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, eddie said: Why stop at countries? I was born in Gillingham - shouldn't I be duty-bound to support them? I bowled for Leicestershire for many years - but the only affiliation I have to the county is that I (only just) live there. Every qualification that enables you to represent a team, whether by residence, parents, place of birth etc is arbitrary - and your pet hobby-horse on the subject has no better - or worse - credentials than anybody else's. You could argue that Derby County have no right to purchase players from outside the region. I don't see any difference. Glory hunter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Daveo said: Tennis will never be that popular until they make it a more accessible sport to play whoever is number 1. Grassroots football complain at the lack of funds but you can pick up a ball and go play in your garden, in a field, on the street wherever. In Derby now where can a kid with no money go and play tennis? It's ok having fitness clubs with these fancy courts but you only get to those at an older age and too late to turn pro. Most tennis players are from families with money behind them, my Charlie plays tennis down the Country Club, oh ratherrrrr Hmm, well sorry Daveo don't know about Derby City but you're talking off the top or your head generalising there a bit. South Derbyshire, Netherseal tennis club anyone, I repeat anyone no matter wealth etc can go down become a member and use their courts. My kids use it, so do kids from the local council estate, so does Charlie Ferrari whose Dad is a property baron, you get my drift though. Similar in Ashby. So there's two within 5 miles of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have a simplistic view on this. If they're good, they're OK. If they're not then they can f**k off back to whichever banana republic they came from. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, StaffsRam said: I have a simplistic view on this. If they're good, they're OK. If they're not then they can f**k off back to whichever banana republic they came from. Simples. Goes for Andy Murray too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Whether Andy Murray is winning or losing just determines whether he's 'Scottish' or 'British'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 tbf that is Andy's view also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: Whether Andy Murray is winning or losing just determines whether he's 'Scottish' or 'British'.... Of course, to Scottish people it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Of course, to Scottish people it's the other way around. They're perfectly entitled to their wrong opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 He was Scottish in the first set today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 32 minutes ago, eddie said: He was Scottish in the first set today Change the name Davies for Murray and Raonic can leave this in the changing room for Andy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Became more British in the second set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: Change the name Davies for Murray and Raonic can leave this in the changing room for Andy.... This is a really bad joke. Changing someone's name to fit a joke is usually a good sign of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Keeps alternating... Scottish...British...Scottish...British... Now in the 5th set - which side of Hadrian's wall will he end up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, eddie said: Became more British in the second set Win the final and he'll almost be English. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 British!!!! Well done, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sorry, I can't warm to this guy. He's got the charisma of a salted slug. As for his mother.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Phoenix said: Sorry, I can't warm to this guy. He's got the charisma of a salted slug. As for his mother.... Winners piss people off, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, eddie said: Winners piss people off, don't they? His is also a personality that not a lot of people seem to get. Not that he cares at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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