Kernow Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 A comment made on here the other day regarding loan players, and how so far this season we've had none has made me think about how strong our squad currently is. I'm not getting ahead of myself, or over-confident, I just think we have a strong squad. For the past couple of years our squad has been strong but has also been heavily reliant on loan players. Wisdom, Bamford, Ince, Thorne, Bent, Ibe and so on. All have had great impacts at our club but all, at least at the time of joining, belonged to other clubs.Thinking about some of the players to play for us in our current spell in this division is remarkable, in a bad way. With no extensive research I'm going to produce a list below of the players to have played for us since 2008. Permanent players who regularly featured are included (e.g players who didn't make the odd appearance from the youth team), loan and fringe players aren't going to be. My point is, upon inspecting the list of players, would anybody exchange a current player for one we've previously had? Obviously based on their quality level whilst playing for us. Could it be that the strongest bunch of players we've owned, not loaned, are all currently at our club?Like I said if I've missed anybody, feel free to add them, I'm basing this list on quick glances of the squad lists for each season. Bold signifies players currently at the club.GoalkeepersRoy Carroll, Stephen Bywater, Saul Deeney, Frank Fielding, Adam Legzdins, Lee Grant, Scott CarsonDefendersPaul Connolly, Jay McEveley, Jordan Stewart, Tyrone Mears, Dean Leacock, Lewin Nyatanga, Claude Davis, Andy Todd, Miles Addison, Martin Albrechtsen, Shaun Barker, Jake Buxton, Dean Moxey, Mark O'Brien, Russell Anderson, John Brayford, Gareth Roberts, Jason Shackell, Tom Naylor, Kieron Freeman, Richard Keogh, Zak Whitbread, James O'Connor, Craig Forsyth, Cyrus Christie, Ryan Shotton, Raul Albentosa, Stephen Warnock, Chris Baird, Alex PearceMidfieldersPaul Green, Kris Commons, Robbie Savage, Mile Sterjovski, Gary Teale, Stephen Pearson, Lee Croft, Lee Hendrie, Tomas Cywka, Dave Martin, James Bailey, Ben Davies, Jeff Hendrick, Craig Bryson, Will Hughes, Michael Jacobs, Ben Davies, John Eustace, George Thorne, Simon DawkinsStrikersTito Villa, Rob Hulse, Luke Varney, Steve Davies, Chris Porter, Callum Ball, Theo Robinson, Jamie Ward, Conor Doyle, Nathan Tyson, Chris Maguire, Mason Bennett, Chris Martin, Conor Sammon, Tom Ince, Darren Bent, Andi WeimannPretty sure that's most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is pretty comprehensive way of confirming that we have built a bloody good side.If you were going to make a post-millennium XI, give or take an Idiakez or an Osman, the side Clement puts out against Bolton is basically it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Be a shout for Brayford maybe, commons and cywka if they could replicate the form they did for that so many games or so when we got upto 4th....Steve davies on form would have a shout at the squad maybe...but oher than that no i dont think so oh and claude davis of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Be a shout for Brayford maybe, commons and cywka if they could replicate the form they did for that so many games or so when we got upto 4th....Steve davies on form would have a shout at the squad maybe...but oher than that no i dont think so oh and claude davis of course Cywka would be nowhere near it. Even Lupoli would be closer. Giles Barnes pre ego/injury would get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Cywka would be nowhere near it. Even Lupoli would be closer. Giles Barnes pre ego/injury would get there. Wasn't sure whether to include Barnes, he'd get in to our squad based on his ability whilst he was with us, but I wasn't sure he could be included as a 2008 onwards player. On his current ability it's debatable whether he'd get in or not.From the list I'd probably add Brayford at the expense of any right back bar Baird, if players we own but are out on loan e.g Sammon are included, then probably Hulse for Sammon as he'd be a much better Chris Martin back-up. A fully fit Barker swapped for Shotton/Albentosa and then I'd say we're pretty much there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wasn't sure whether to include Barnes, he'd get in to our squad based on his ability whilst he was with us, but I wasn't sure he could be included as a 2008 onwards player. On his current ability it's debatable whether he'd get in or not.From the list I'd probably add Brayford at the expense of any right back bar Baird, if players we own but are out on loan e.g Sammon are included, then probably Hulse for Sammon as he'd be a much better Chris Martin back-up. A fully fit Barker swapped for Shotton/Albentosa and then I'd say we're pretty much there.no he doesn't probably class as 2008 onwards. My post was more directed at "post millennium" from Duracell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 no he doesn't probably class as 2008 onwards. My post was more directed at "post millennium" from DuracellFair enough. That would be an entirely different matter, couldn't be arsed trawling through another 5/6 years of squads. Players like Idiakez, Rasiak, Oakley etc would probably make for a much bigger decision of who to keep/discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Lee Croft always looked like he was running on sand.So much effort, just never quicker than anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So many pap strikers that I thought would net us 15 a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'd have had Ruben Zadkovich back in an instant now where's that video......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 If I were forced to pick a best XI over this time, it'd go:GrantBrayford Barker (c) Shackell ForsythThorneBryson HughesInce CommonsMartinFieldingKeoghEustaceHendrickDawkinsWardRussellExcluding players who haven't played for us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Carroll Freeman Naylor Davis Roberts Croft Sterjovski Martin Hendrie Doyle Sammon Now that's what you call relegation candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Roberts was actually quite good for us. If I were going for our worst XI in that time I'd actually go for:DeeneyConnolly Nyatanga Davis StewartHendrie PearsonCroft MartinVarney DoyleFeels a bit harsh on Deeney and Nyatanga, but at least the other defenders had their moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Pearson was a proper engine though, nowhere near our worst CM in this time imo. I loved the lanky ginger. Really forced the counterattacks through. I don't think it's harsh on Deeney, but Nyatanga always did alright in my opinion. Was never anything better than average but you can't forget since 2008, until McClaren turned up we were bang average at best, and we weren't at our best much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 MidfieldersPaul Green, Kris Commons, Robbie Savage, Mile Sterjovski, Gary Teale, Stephen Pearson, Lee Croft, Lee Hendrie, Tomas Cywka, Dave Martin, James Bailey, Ben Davies, Jeff Hendrick, Craig Bryson, Will Hughes, Michael Jacobs, Ben Davies, John Eustace, George Thorne, Simon DawkinsYou have Ben Davies twice and have omitted Boris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Pearson was a proper engine though, nowhere near our worst CM in this time imo. I loved the lanky ginger. Really forced the counterattacks through. I don't think it's harsh on Deeney, but Nyatanga always did alright in my opinion. Was never anything better than average but you can't forget since 2008, until McClaren turned up we were bang average at best, and we weren't at our best much.Whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA! Take back everything you said about Stephen Pearson. I cried every time I saw his name on the team sheet. Can't pass, tackle, head, shoot or mark. My dog could do what he did for Derby. Including running into the ball after some excellent work from Howard and Barnes. If the useless tosspot had missed he'd have saved us that horrible season. If he'd actually had a shot he would have missed but he just kept on running because that's all he's good at.I feel very strongly about this and if you disagree with me i'll eithera) challenge you to a duel (if you're small and frail)or b) Edit one if your posts somewhere to make it a racist, homophobic, sexist comment and then report it to Daveo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Oh my lord we have had some tripe! Best 11 BywaterBrayford shackell bucko fozzy Thorne bryson Ince hughes barnes Martin Worst 11 CarrollConnolly davis todd stewart Hendrie sterjovski Croft doyle teale Sammon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongrea Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Such a shame Dean Holdsworth played in the 2005 season...Seriously though, it does show how far we have come since that farce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Periplotkins - 2 apps then sunk without traceNoble up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA! Take back everything you said about Stephen Pearson. I cried every time I saw his name on the team sheet. Can't pass, tackle, head, shoot or mark. My dog could do what he did for Derby. Including running into the ball after some excellent work from Howard and Barnes. If the useless tosspot had missed he'd have saved us that horrible season. If he'd actually had a shot he would have missed but he just kept on running because that's all he's good at. I feel very strongly about this and if you disagree with me i'll either a) challenge you to a duel (if you're small and frail) or b) Edit one if your posts somewhere to make it a racist, homophobic, sexist comment and then report it to Daveo I don't feel strongly enough. I was young (15ish) when he was playing and I can't remember anything bad to be honest lol If I did feel strongly about it, I would just tell you I'm small and frail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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