CheltenhamRam Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Towards the end of the season they didn't have a lot of game time together because of injury. I think when they get a run of games they are our best partnership.Agree. I actually thought the run of problems might be the beginning of the end of bucko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 A few people suggesting Ssewankambo.What is this based on? Only asking as I have not seen him play yet and have no idea what he is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Ive just read a Derby telegraph review of the Grimsby game, and Keoghs ball was intercepted for the first goal, so not a good start for him. Intercepted could also mean 'gave the ball away'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Agree. I actually thought the run of problems might be the beginning of the end of bucko. Coffee problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 A few people suggesting Ssewankambo.What is this based on? Only asking as I have not seen him play yet and have no idea what he is all about.Cool name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Cool name.Shame we got rid of Marino Rahmberg and Tonton Zola Moukoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harbourram Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Ive just read a Derby telegraph review of the Grimsby game, and Keoghs ball was intercepted for the first goal, so not a good start for him. Intercepted could also mean 'gave the ball away'.Wouldn't be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Shame we got rid of Marino Rahmberg and Tonton Zola MoukokoAwesome CM0102 player - captained my Scunny team to three successive Champions Leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Wouldn't be the first time. probably won't be the last. Crucify the *******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web17bates Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think keogh did well last season seeing tho he had to cover RB as well Christie was wasn't good at all the games keogh was good was when shotton was playing RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughandtaylor Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 With the calamity defence errors on Saturday at the Grimsby game, let us just hope that PC now sees how poor Keogh, Shotton and Christie really are in defence - and that is against non league opposition!Lets us call time on those three and move them out-we cannot have this type of defending again next season, it did cost us in the last 10 games of last season.The calamity of the Grimsby game proves things now have to change, we cannot have a repeat of the keystone cops from August onwards, WE NEED A CB who can read the game, can marshal the defence and lead by example!Baird should now be installed as RB with Fozzy LB - a new CB with the either Bucko or Spaniard in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Quick update:Is Keogh going somewhere? Or has he even rumoured to be going somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 In a central defensive pairing, one should be the centre half who goes first to deal with the threat, the other should cover.when keogh and shotton play, you'd expect shotton to be the centre half and keogh to cover, but keogh seems to want to take ownership of any situation and to rush to meet the danger whilst shotton seems clueless about how to react and cover. It won't work unless they swap roles or find a better covering player. I'm not sure that albentosa or buxton or shackell is a natural sweeper....and i haven't yet seen Pearce.maybe keogh rushes forward because he doesn't trust his partner to deal with the initial danger, but he is probably be the most natural sweeper. if he could just resist the urge to charge forward and instead drop off and let the other big lump attack the initial danger maybe we could get a pairing to work but it seems that Keogh naturally wants to be the centre half and he wants his partners either side to cover him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 In a central defensive pairing, one should be the centre half who goes first to deal with the threat, the other should cover.when keogh and shotton play, you'd expect shotton to be the centre half and keogh to cover, but keogh seems to want to take ownership of any situation and to rush to meet the danger whilst shotton seems clueless about how to react and cover. It won't work unless they swap roles or find a better covering player. I'm not sure that albentosa or buxton or shackell is a natural sweeper....and i haven't yet seen Pearce.maybe keogh rushes forward because he doesn't trust his partner to deal with the initial danger, but he is probably be the most natural sweeper. if he could just resist the urge to charge forward and instead drop off and let the other big lump attack the initial danger maybe we could get a pairing to work but it seems that Keogh naturally wants to be the centre half and he wants his partners either side to cover him.Cover + stopper partnership used to work 20 years ago.Modern football just happens to be so fast, that both CB's shoud be able to do both roles. Otherwise there's way too much room for forwards. That of course is only my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 With the calamity defence errors on Saturday at the Grimsby game, let us just hope that PC now sees how poor Keogh, Shotton and Christie really are in defence - and that is against non league opposition!Lets us call time on those three and move them out-we cannot have this type of defending again next season, it did cost us in the last 10 games of last season.The calamity of the Grimsby game proves things now have to change, we cannot have a repeat of the keystone cops from August onwards, WE NEED A CB who can read the game, can marshal the defence and lead by example!Baird should now be installed as RB with Fozzy LB - a new CB with the either Bucko or Spaniard in the middle.The first goal was down to runners not picked up from midfield.Calamity of the Grimsby game? It was a pre season friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think keogh did well last season seeing tho he had to cover RB as well Christie was wasn't good at all the games keogh was good was when shotton was playing RB is a translation available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughandtaylor Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 The first goal was down to runners not picked up from midfield.Calamity of the Grimsby game? It was a pre season friendly. Not being able to read the game, and against non league for gods shake !Yep, against Postmen or whatever there proper jobs are!Look this performance was against non league opposition, regardless of excuses of its only a friendly, players don't want to pick up injuries, it was they way we conceeded those goals, we still have not learned anything from last seasons woeful defending. It like we have just continued where we left off!I bet PC is thinking I have gone from Ramos to Keogh in such a short time , its like trading in your Rolls for a Lada...........This cannot go on.......... time for the change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Not being able to read the game, and against non league for gods shake !Yep, against Postmen or whatever there proper jobs are!Look this performance was against non league opposition, regardless of excuses of its only a friendly, players don't want to pick up injuries, it was they way we conceeded those goals, we still have not learned anything from last seasons woeful defending. It like we have just continued where we left off!I bet PC is thinking I have gone from Ramos to Keogh in such a short time , its like trading in your Rolls for a Lada...........This cannot go on.......... time for the change!Opposition means nothing, it was a preseason friendly. Our players won't be that sharp and are far from their best.The whole point of preseason is for the players to regain match fitness in a live game environment. Results mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughandtaylor Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Opposition means nothing, it was a preseason friendly. Our players won't be that sharp and are far from their best.The whole point of preseason is for the players to regain match fitness in a live game environment. Results mean nothing.The goals had nothing to do with fitness, nothing to do not being sharp [are you saying Grimsby's part timers are sharper] - those goals were basic defensive errors yet again, [not being able to read the game, knowing who you are marking, picking up players etc] the same type of errors we had in the last 10 games of the season.Shocking defending once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Sack them all i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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