does anyone else agree that we need a play like that antonio on our team?

[Sexydadbod]

Imo our current wingers are too predictable as they all like to come inside. We need a strong,fast direct winger who will run at the defenders. Ward does this to some extent but his small frame doesn't scare defenders. Antonio looked like he made shotton scared of him and won almost every battle with him. Gotta give forest credit where it is due, antonio and assongalongbawonga(lol) look like good players. Hoping that ibe that will be the player that we need

[Duracell]

Still not sure what I think of Antonio. Considering how often he beats his man, he doesn't put that many balls into the box. I know he's started well with Forest but he can be wasteful. He's never played with a forward as good as Assombalonga though so we'll see how he does over the full season.

 

But long answer short, no we don't. We don't play with wingers in the old-fashioned sense of the word, so unless we're changing our style of play, we don't need a player like him.

[Sexydadbod]

Still not sure what I think of Antonio. Considering how often he beats his man, he doesn't put that many balls into the box. I know he's started well with Forest but he can be wasteful. He's never played with a forward as good as Assombalonga though so we'll see how he does over the full season.

 

But long answer short, no we don't. We don't play with wingers in the old-fashioned sense of the word, so unless we're changing our style of play, we don't need a player like him.

 

Still wouldn't mind a player that can beat a man in our team. Still don't know what dawkins does for our team

[Day]

Antonio was crap v Sheff Wed, didn't think he was anything special today either. Wingers are hit and miss, happy with what we have. Didn't watch that thinking jeeez I wish we had an Antonio

[Duracell]

Still wouldn't mind a player that can beat a man in our team. Still don't know what dawkins does for our team

We have Christie and Forsyth to do that, and they do it well. It wouldn't be as simple as putting a player like Antonio in our side - the whole system would have to change, and we'd need to sign more players in other positions to make the change. It would upset the balance if you didn't do that.

 

Dawkins didn't play well today, but Dawkins brings two things to us - the first is consistency in possession, in that he finds a white shirt a lot, which is far more important to us than beating a man. Secondly, he brings versatility, as today proved - he played 3 or 4 different roles in today's 100 plus minutes

[McMuffin]

Ibe will be much better than him

[-JW-]

He's a decent championship player at best. Prefer Ward.

[Sexydadbod]

Ibe will be much better than him

Hope so

[Leicester Ram]

He's possibly the most predictable player we've played so far, what are you on about? It's the classic case of fans being obsessed with players that 'beat their man', the amount of times there's a thread filled with people saying 'we need a winger than can beat his man' is worrying.

 

Ward, Dawkins, Russell and Ibe are all this sort of player, they just tend to do it in a less obvious way. Dawkins took 3 of their players out of the game so many times today with an interchange between him and Forsyth/Bryson, then cutting inside. Is that beating enough players?

 

Antonio's a 4-4-2, hoofball dream winger. Big, strong, quick and a pretty much perfect example of the type of player the English game churns out. He's not got a brain, but he sure looks good on a highlight reel.

[AmericanRam]

Antonio is a solid player, but I like what we have better. Antonio fits Forest and their....'system'. However, I do not think he would fit ours, and probably a lot of other teams as well.

[Guest]

He is just another franz carr; push it run and no end product

[Papahet]

He's a top player, I'd have him here anyday.

Beat a supposed Premiership fullback every time.

[Harrowram]

Ibe looked very quick and lively when he came on. I would be tempted to start him verses Blackburn on Tuesday

[Sexydadbod]

Ibe looked very quick and lively when he came on. I would be tempted to start him verses Blackburn on Tuesday

ME too. He is the type of player we might need to open up tight defenders

[DerbyRam!]

want to see calero given a chance too, mark my words i bet he can be a quicker fitter/no hamstring problem ward. Glad we have signed him and he's not just on loan, ibe looked good too i thought but never really had long enough to do anything.

[RLACML]

You are, and always have been, a wum

[Shaftesbury Street]

"scared of him"

 

You have got to be 12.

[CheltenhamRam]

I like dawks and will give anyone in the team the benefit of the doubt but he was **** today alongside Shotton

[IlsonDerby]

Dawkins had a very steady game today. 

 

Martin, Shotton, Buxton all had much worse games. 

[nfb]

The grass is always greener etc 

Antonio..... had a good game, but don't forget he is from Shef Weds, Ibe is from Liverpool.

 

All those saying lets see Calero, we have, he scored a goal, and looks a prospect, So does Santos who looks every bit as good.

That said, Ibe  (by all accounts) should be better than Antonio, and Santos/Calero, with his experience and quality. He just needs to be played... But, and here's the conundrum, we don't play a style at the mo that supports an out and out winger

As I said in the matchday thread, I don't think we have found the shape of the best team yet... and its really complex to put all the pieces of our new jigsaw together with the talent we now have as to what our best team is ?

With Mac seeming to like a similar starting 11 most weeks, I think it might be a while before he knows too