t'oldu Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 IF - big IF -the Mirror rumour is true and Baggies pay Celtic a large amount for his services are we due any sell-on money?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A 30 year old injury prone player with from what I can tell, a year left on his contract.If they pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 3 and a half seasons, 122 starts and 66 ain't bad for a injury prone player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Commons.. "http://natterfootball.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kris_commons_1293625c1" alt="kris_commons_1293625c1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 3 and a half seasons, 122 starts and 66 ain't bad for a injury prone playerFor Scottish Premiership matches he's made 99 in his time there from a possible 134 (74% of games), which doesn't sound too bad, until you consider that he only managed 6,977 minutes from 12,060 possible, or 58% of matches. In context, for a Premier League season, this would equate to about 28 matches at 70 minutes a pop.Even 0.632 goals per 90 and 0.503 assists per 90 isn't all that impression considering that it's Scottish Premiership goals we're talking about, which aren't even worth considering at Premiership level.So what you're left with is a 30 year old player, who averages 28 games at 70 minutes a pop, who's highest standard of play has been the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 European games don't count then? have to remember that Lennon used to mix the side up after a mid week friendly so whilst he may only have played 74% of league games how many were missed due to injury and how many were due to team changes. WBA are not in Europe so wouldn't be an issue for him there. Stats can be twisted to back any argument as you've just proved, stats also don't show his work rate and contribution in build up to goals which helped him win player of the year and footballer of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Class player, only takes a second or two to score or create a goal , players don't have to play every minute to have big effects on games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 He's found his niche in Scotland and I really don't see what would be gained going to the Premiership now. Being nearer to his family and old friends, the occasional competitive game, and 3 years x say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 European games don't count then? have to remember that Lennon used to mix the side up after a mid week friendly so whilst he may only have played 74% of league games how many were missed due to injury and how many were due to team changes. WBA are not in Europe so wouldn't be an issue for him there. Stats can be twisted to back any argument as you've just proved, stats also don't show his work rate and contribution in build up to goals which helped him win player of the year and footballer of the year.European games take a lot more time to account for all those missed. If you're interested though:13-14: 79% of time (79% of time in the league too)Are you seriously suggesting though that Commons has become harder working than he was here? He's got that bit of magic about him and can turn a game, but he's never been a super hard worker and had a tendency to disappear a bit. He has appeared roughly at the same rate there, and his stats pretty much fit the Scotland rule. I like Commons as a player, but he's never been a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshfieldRam Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Reported fee is 7.5 million in the mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Being nearer to his family and old friends, the occasional competitive game, and 3 years x say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Scottish player of the year last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Scottish player of the year last season.Would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 To answer the original question, I doubt it. We weren't really in any position to demand any clauses when we sold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 To answer the original question, I doubt it. We weren't really in any position to demand any clauses when we sold him.Us getting a chunk isn't that odd to be fair. I seriously doubt it as we'd have heard something about it at the time, but having such a clause could explain such a ridiculous fee being mooted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 European games take a lot more time to account for all those missed. If you're interested though:13-14: 79% of time (79% of time in the league too)Are you seriously suggesting though that Commons has become harder working than he was here? He's got that bit of magic about him and can turn a game, but he's never been a super hard worker and had a tendency to disappear a bit. He has appeared roughly at the same rate there, and his stats pretty much fit the Scotland rule. I like Commons as a player, but he's never been a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Celtic have told WBA that he's not for sale, and don't like him being unsettled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Celtic are bat **** crazy if they don't jump at the chance of such a stupid fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My original point was for an injury prone player he has a fair few games under his belt, you have his games played ratio at 79% but again what percentage of the 21% missed was due to injury? If you're throwing stats around you need to include this one to be fair. I can't say for sure but I think you will find a lot of this was down to team selections and he was either on the bench or left out having played in Europe midweek.He's a fan favourite and an important player for Celtic, top goal scorer last season, he's also been far more consistent for them than he ever was for us. Is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Consistency in Scotland means pretty much nothing? If you don't rate the SPL that's fair enough but comments like that are just ridiculous, consistency at any level means everything. Also how are you working out that 10 SPL goals = 5/6 Championship goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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