jimbobram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 There is a documentary on tonight presented by Clarke Carlisle about depression and suicide in football. It looks like its more common that people realise. I didn't even realise that Lee Hendrie tried to take his own life. I think this just shows that having all the luxuries in life still isn't guaranteed to make you happy. BBC 3 9PM tonight. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23226524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 So I was right to use the term 'wristslashers' then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'd be suicidal every time I thought about the 50 grand a week coming into my bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I bet Paul Mersons on there talking about his bloody demons again. He always looks bloody happy when he's fookin screaming "oh! Yes! Gooooal!" On sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'd be suicidal every time I thought about the 50 grand a week coming into my bank account. Why do people associate money with happiness? If you lost all your friends and family, would you be sad about it? Then if someone said "you can have your friends and family back, or you can have unlimited money", what would you pick? As someone who suffers depression, albeit without wealth, I can hand on heart say that when wanting to dig myself out of the rut I am in, never once do I think loads of cash would make me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Well it can get you top private professional help can't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Why do people associate money with happiness? If you lost all your friends and family, would you be sad about it? Then if someone said "you can have your friends and family back, or you can have unlimited money", what would you pick? As someone who suffers depression, albeit without wealth, I can hand on heart say that when wanting to dig myself out of the rut I am in, never once do I think loads of cash would make me feel better. Do you have adequate treatment and help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Well it can get you top private professional help can't it? Is true...can buy you the best Harley Street shrink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Is true...can buy you the best Harley Street shrinkThat's true - but what can they do with their posh sofas and sash windows that the local NHS can't except charge the earth? There are some great doctors. But, you have to want to get better, for yourself. That's the bottom line for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'd be suicidal every time I thought about the 50 grand a week coming into my bank account. watch the programme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 You can say they look happy when there on the tv. there hiding there feelings. Look at Gary Speed, was on tv...next day he hung himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I didn't even realise that Lee Hendrie tried to take his own life. Yep, I read an article about him, apparently all of the money he made through football he lost through bad investments and peed the rest up the wall then ended up playing for Tamworth Rovers so can semi understand where he was coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 You can say they look happy when there on the tv. there hiding there feelings. Look at Gary Speed, was on tv...next day he hung himself. Even now, that sends a shiver down my spine I remember watching him on Football Focus that Sat afternoon - seemed totally normal, usual chit chat on the sofa - he was doing a fantastic job as Wales team manager too, they'd started winning games on a regular basis, had played England off the park a few weeks earlier... And then he does that. So so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 Even now, that sends a shiver down my spine I remember watching him on Football Focus that Sat afternoon - seemed totally normal, usual chit chat on the sofa - he was doing a fantastic job as Wales team manager too, they'd started winning games on a regular basis, had played England off the park a few weeks earlier... And then he does that. So so sad. It is sad. I cant imagine being in that situation where you feel the need to take your own life. Outsiders like us would think he has a great life, doing well as manager, had a great career, money, family, popular man. But there's something in peoples head that is so bad that they need to do it. I think that these youth players who are at clubs since they are 6,7,8 years old and then get released at 16 17 have got to have help because football is there life. Then suddenly it stops. That would hurt me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 read this. Good insight. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ecoqm1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Life is a gift.. It's so sad when people throw it away when the going gets tough People should also live outside of their little bubble.. See what the world is really about.. People would stop being so depressed if they get to see first hand people far worse off than they are.. I could never be depressed, especially when I've seen how 3rd world people live.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I remember reading somewhere that dean windass struggled with depression and tried to commit suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I've only watched the last 15 minutes of this, but Clarke Carlisle grates on me for some reason. I know he's an intelligent bloke, but it's like he comes across as thinking he's more intelligent than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 It is sad. I cant imagine being in that situation where you feel the need to take your own life. Outsiders like us would think he has a great life, doing well as manager, had a great career, money, family, popular man. But there's something in peoples head that is so bad that they need to do it. I think that these youth players who are at clubs since they are 6,7,8 years old and then get released at 16 17 have got to have help because football is there life. Then suddenly it stops. That would hurt me. I suppose that's the hardest thing to understand about it. But I'm guessing that unless you have that condition, you can't explain why you feel a certain way - the human mind/personality is truly a complex thing. Football's rag to riches culture is scary though - you're right about the youth team players getting released but the dip must be even more extreme when you've tasted immediate success. Someone like Will Hughes for instance - a year ago, he'd just made his debut, a couple of folk remarked he looked a decent player. Less than 9 months later, the whole Premiership wants to sign him - Barcelona have got a dossier on him!! What does that do to a young mind?! Great programme though - the bit when Clarke Carlisle is in the park reliving his thought processes before trying to kill himself was particularly poignant. Powerful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansea ram Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I think that these youth players who are at clubs since they are 6,7,8 years old and then get released at 16 17 have got to have help because football is there life. Then suddenly it stops. That would hurt me. My other half's nephew who's 11 has been on Cardiff City's books since he was about 7, and now Swansea are trying to get him to go there. It's all he seems to do is train and play. He has already broke his leg 2 years ago. I can see this going terribly wrong if he don't make it. Not suicidal, but not knowing what else is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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