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uttoxram75

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It's amazing how two passionate men can be alike in so many ways but believe in completely different things.

 

I know Brian Clough was a socialist.

The best british managers of all time were  socialists

 

Matt Busby

Bill Shankly

Bob Paisley

Alex Ferguson

Brian Clough

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blackNwhites

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The best british managers of all time were  socialists

 

Matt Busby

Bill Shankly

Bob Paisley

Alex Ferguson

Brian Clough

Also amazing is how we remember people like those guys, and the mussolini and hitler types are remembered in a much different way.

 

Obviously, they were in much different positions for employment, but still..

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Duracell

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And Di Canio could quite easily ask Kick It Out what right they have to try and stop him from being employed based on his political views. Would that not be discrimination in itself?

Are Kick It Out behind stopping all sorts of discrimination or is it just against black people?

I was not even aware that having fascist tendencies equated to being a racist.

Ok forget the George Bush comparison it was a bit far fetched...it will probably just be people that vote UKIP that will be under the spotlight next.

It's not just his political views though - fascism is about more than politics. The position needs clarifying because if Di Canio does not let his personal views affect his job, he's a rubbish fascist. Which would be fine, I suppose. But this is very dodgy territory.

 

No Sunderland fan has ever fought in a war against UKIP or George Bush voters. But there are plenty of families at the Stadium of Light who can still remember losing someone in the Second World War, where Fascism was the enemy.

 

Fascism does not necessarily equate to racism, but fascism hardly flies the flag to tolerance, equality and respect. Fascism is everything Kick it Out is not. One of the things I thought we wanted to "Kick Out" is far-right extremism....even UKIP are miles away from that.

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Duracell

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Also amazing is how we remember people like those guys, and the mussolini and hitler types are remembered in a much different way.

 

Obviously, they were in much different positions for employment, but still..

It's because their views weren't extreme - they were Socialists, not Communists. Stalin isn't remembered in much of a different way to Mussolini and Hitler.

 

There is a difference between strong views and extreme views.

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uttoxram75

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It's because their views weren't extreme - they were Socialists, not Communists. Stalin isn't remembered in much of a different way to Mussolini and Hitler.

 

There is a difference between strong views and extreme views.

 

 

“The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.”

 

Bill Shankly

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Also amazing is how we remember people like those guys, and the mussolini and hitler types are remembered in a much different way.

 

Obviously, they were in much different positions for employment, but still..

 

Not sure if serious....

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“The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.”

 

Bill Shankly

That's the famous quote, yes. Still don't think he was a Communist.

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Out of interest is there any openly open jewish footballers in the premier league? it's a large religion so I expect there will be a few - I can't stand certain people with his sort of mentality and strongly hope the **** fails, massively! 

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Paolo Di Canio has attempted to draw a final line under the controversy surrounding his appointment as Sunderland head coach by denying he supports fascism.

The colourful Italian succeeded Martin O'Neill on Sunday but the appointment was immediately heavily criticised by vocal opponents across the football and political spectrum.

Local South Shields MP David Miliband decided almost immediately to step down from the club's board as vice-chairman due to Di Canio's "past political statements".

The Dean of Durham became the latest public figure to voice his disquiet after Di Canio repeatedly refused to answer questions on his politics when formally unveiled to the press.

But he decided to release a statement on Sunderland's official website to finally put the episode to rest.

The statement read: "I have clearly stated that I do not wish to speak about matters other than football, however, I have been deeply hurt by the attacks on the football club.

"This is an historic, proud and ethical club and to read and hear some of the vicious and personal accusations is painful. I am an honest man, my values and principles come from my family and my upbringing.

"I feel that I should not have to continually justify myself to people who do not understand this. However, I will say one thing only, I am not the man some people like to portray.

"I am not political, I do not affiliate myself to any organisation, I am not a racist and I do not support the ideology of fascism. I respect everyone.

"I am a football man and this and my family are my focus. I will speak only of football."

The furore over Di Canio's failure to renounce fascism reached new heights earlier when The Very Reverend Michael Sadgrove, the Dean of Durham, wrote an open letter to say he was struggling to stay loyal to the club and that he found Di Canio's "self-confessed fascism deeply troubling".

Sadgrove, the child of a Jewish war refugee, said in his letter: "I believe that unless you clearly renounce fascism in all its manifestations, you will be associated with these toxic far-right tendencies we have seen too much of in this region."

He added: "Please tell me that I have misunderstood, or missed some fundamental issue here. I am simply telling you with a heavy heart that it feels hard at the moment to stay loyal."

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It's not just his political views though - fascism is about more than politics. The position needs clarifying because if Di Canio does not let his personal views affect his job, he's a rubbish fascist. Which would be fine, I suppose. But this is very dodgy territory.

 

No Sunderland fan has ever fought in a war against UKIP or George Bush voters. But there are plenty of families at the Stadium of Light who can still remember losing someone in the Second World War, where Fascism was the enemy.

 

Fascism does not necessarily equate to racism, but fascism hardly flies the flag to tolerance, equality and respect. Fascism is everything Kick it Out is not. One of the things I thought we wanted to "Kick Out" is far-right extremism....even UKIP are miles away from that.

Just because he says he is fascist does not necessarily mean he is a far-right fascist that the media is now portraying him as. And that in itself is a problem.

I'd say a good few managers could be considered fascist in their approach to club management, and Paulo has had success up to now, even if he had the finances to do it at Swindon. This whole thing is a storm in a teacup made to sell papers.

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