AndyinLiverpool Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 No, no no. 1. They a vile, pernicious club with a large hardcore of bigots. 2. They are proven cheats. 3. They have defrauded us all of vast quantities of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 4. The owner is too ignorant to realise why Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham play in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 4. The owner is too ignorant to realise why Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham play in England. Why do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Why do they? Cos there was no Welsh League back when they were founded so, they entered the Southern League as this was the nearest league to them back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 they may not be able to stop them competing in English leagues but it will be up to the league which division they play in even if they 'franchise' a club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 But Wimbledon weren't liquidated or expelled from the league prior to the move. They would have to buy Portsmouth before the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 All the FA have to do is to bring in a new rule.No religious bigotry allowed.UEFA could hardly oppose that or for that matter the EC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 All the FA have to do is to bring in a new rule.No religious bigotry allowed.UEFA could hardly oppose that or for that matter the EC. I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment but just can't see this standing up at the ECJ. Any such domestic body rules would be thrown out on the basis of unfair trading and competition alone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Find it odd you'd refuse them entry for bigotry and other things when the football league is full of that sort of behaviour. Unfair to tag all of Rangers with the same brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 When they came to Pride Park for Ted's testimonial, all we heard were songs about how much they hate Celtic and the Pope. They're living in the Dark Ages. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 When they came to Pride Park for Ted's testimonial, all we heard were songs about how much they hate Celtic and the Pope. They're living in the Dark Ages. No thanks. Well thank goodness we don't hear moronic songs about how much Forest and Leeds are hated at PP. Or songs about Leicester being a small town in Asia. Bring them into League 2 and let them work their way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Simple answer, Wales is a part of England. In 1536 Henry VIII’s government enacted a measure that made changes in the government of Wales. Whereas the Statute of Wales (1284) had annexed Wales to the crown of England, the new act declared the king’s wish to incorporate Wales within the realm. Rangers can f*ck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Wales is indeed a Principality but as we know compete as a nation in international football and other sports, except cricket of course which is more important As for the alleged Pope songs, I can think of much worse and the Catholic church are no saints either, pardon the pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Wales is indeed a Principality but as we know compete as a nation in international football and other sports, except cricket of course which is more important As for the alleged Pope songs, I can think of much worse and the Catholic church are no saints either, pardon the pun. Agreed, but all we heard were songs of bigotry. Each to their own, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 When they came to Pride Park for Ted's testimonial, all we heard were songs about how much they hate Celtic and the Pope. They're living in the Dark Ages. No thanks. That was one hell of a turn out. 10,000 pissed up scots travelled 300 miles to pay tribute to a former player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 No Rangers your scottish you play in Scotland. Whoever said Cardiff Swansea and Wrexham should be allowed to play in England should have gone to thier Geography lessons. English league for English teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Agreed, but all we heard were songs of bigotry. Each to their own, I suppose. I do agree Rangers and any bigotry have no place in English football. The concern is that if they go the franchise route and employ a top legal team the FA may be powerless to prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 **** off Call me Dave. A day early for April Fools. A sensational new bid by Rangers and Celtic to join English football is receiving top-secret backing from Prime Minister David Cameron, writes the Sunday People. Sunday People Sport can reveal that Number 10 is taking a ‘massive interest’ in the potential switch of the Scottish giants. Cameron’s surprise part in the controversial move is two-fold: * Because of fears over safety if the Glasgow clubs go into England’s lower leagues and ‘swamp’ small grounds with their massive support. * And, bizarrely but significantly, to catch votes in the upcoming vote on Scottish independence. Two major powerbrokers involved in the process confirmed that meetings have taken place recently with Cameron and other leading figures. And the Prime Minister’s team are planning to pull strings to make the move happen sooner rather than later. Both Rangers and Celtic have tried to find ways of coming to England in the past few years, only to run into resistance. Rangers – under the leadership of Yorkshireman Charles Green – have even looked at joining the Conference. David Cameron delivers a speech on immigration at the University Campus Suffolk PM: David Cameron has his reasons for welcoming the Scottish giants PA And Celtic were manoeuvring to join the Football League at the third tier a year ago – as we exclusively revealed. Until now the game’s authorities have found ways of stopping the border raiders coming to England despite many clubs welcoming it for financial reasons. But if Cameron and his government allies can help persuade the leaders of the FA, Premier League and Football League behind the scenes it could be breakthrough time. One prominent figure, who wishes to remain anonymous, insists Rangers and Celtic have “never had a better chance” of coming to England because of the political climate. He said: “This is a major issue and the talks have gone all the way to the very top. “There would be huge potential problems if Rangers decided to buy their way into a Conference club. It is something they are openly talking about. “Could you imagine thousands of their fans turning up at tiny grounds and all of the policing and security problems that would cause. “That is a major worry for Cameron and that has been pointed out in discussions about what would happen in those circumstances. “And, of course, there is the vote on independence which is currently splitting Scotland and putting Cameron under pressure as the Queen would see the union being broken up on his watch. “Rangers fans are squarely behind the unionist cause and will always wave the flag. But if Celtic were to be playing in England it might prove to their fans that they should be British. This may sound strange to people in England but there are hundreds of thousands of votes here – and football is at the middle of a lot of debates up here.” Rangers coach Ally McCoist celebrates with the Clydesdale Bank Premier League Trophy Hot Scot: Rangers coach McCoist celebrates with the league trophy PA The Conference issue could be kicked into touch, as fresh moves are being talked about among Championship chairmen to find a way of bringing Rangers and Celtic into the second tier. One top source confirmed: “It is the only sensible solution. We all know the clubs want to come here and would do virtually anything to make it happen. It would be very difficult under the present rules. But there are moves afoot. Any government support could only help.” One scenario is that the larger clubs in the Championship form a breakaway – in effect Premier League Two – and invite Rangers and Celtic to the party. It would only take a year to set up, which would no doubt meet with approval in high places, where a deal BEFORE the Scottish independence vote in September 2014 is seen as crucial. The most drastic plan would be for Celtic or Rangers to BUY a Conference side, or a struggling League One or League Two club, but this would also increase government safety concerns. Such an option could see the astonishing prospect of Rangers and Celtic moving lock stock and barrel to England before eventually returning to Ibrox and Parkhead. The Scots giants are even willing to pay to come to England – with talk of a £15million bounty each which would go to Football League clubs who could lose out. But those amounts would be peanuts compared to the money that would roll in from TV revenue when they reach the Premier League promised land. Top clubs in England pocket in the region of £60m each from TV rights – that figure will be closer to £100m from next season when an astonishing £3billion new deal kicks in. Celtic, in contrast, pick up £2.4m for winning the Scottish league. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/prime-minister-david-cameron-backs-1794754?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 That would take us into the Premiership (ignore the 2) as we'd be classed as a big club surely? Might get better TV revenue in as well, hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Both should play in the PL.. Or in England at least.. No fecker can ever complain about distances etc. because the British Isles are tiny.. Germany is bigger than both England and Scotland together so travelling won't be a problem.. That's just a poor excuse.. Both clubs would be massive additions to the PL.. As far as supporters, global name and potential they both could be challenging for the CL places even in the PL.. They'd be similar to the likes of Everton and Newcastle at first but can easily catch up with the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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