Ambitious Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 In four years of Clough doing a "superb job", "on a shoestring budget" "balancing the books" ETC- I've never once seen his name linked to another job, except for the vacant Forest position before Mcclaren took over. What does that tell you? That he doesn't have the qualifications to get another job in this division - that is also a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Think theres abit of a difference between managing a side mid Championship and the biggest club in the Country, currently sat top of the Premiership.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I would have thought there would be a big demand for a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I would have thought there would be a big demand for a good manager. As another person has said. Clough cannot go and manage another team after Derby straight away. He would have to get all his coaching certificates etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 So if Clough only holds a B license, surely that shows he won't ever walk away from the job? He won't ever be able to find work, especially at this level. Why he hasn't enrolled on the course is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 So if Clough only holds a B license, surely that shows he won't ever walk away from the job? He won't ever be able to find work, especially at this level. Why he hasn't enrolled on the course is beyond me. He would be able to get a managerial job afterwards he would just have to get his licence first. Yes that would take time but he would still be able to find a job eventually. The reason why he hasn't the license is because when he took the job you didn't need any qualifications. I think only Clough and Kenny jacket are under that possibility now as the two longest serving managers. Nonetheless i agree that i am surprised Clough hasnt got his license during his time at Derby maybe it is too time consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Maybe just maybe hes doing other things, like trying to find a new winning formula. I think id be more worried if he did enroll on the course, planning on going somewhere is he? My guess is hes giving DCFC his full attention so hasnt got the time to go on a coacking course for something he doesnt need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 In four years of Clough doing a "superb job", "on a shoestring budget" "balancing the books" ETC- I've never once seen his name linked to another job, except for the vacant Forest position before Mcclaren took over. What does that tell you? that he's not available so the papers haven't linked him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorneoRam Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I read this thread title, got excited, then opened it, and found it wasn't true.. Similar to taking the clothes off a rather good looking ladyboy from Thailand I note you went ahead and read the content anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtableforever Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Has he necessary coaching badges to work with professional football club? What the **** he is doing at Derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Hindge Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Jeeeez people wern't wrong about Rams Talk were they, I think Nige has done a great job although i dont agree with some of his subs Im happy with what he has done here, he cares about this club and has again built it up from the bottom after Dwarf and o Paul destroyed our youth set up!!! All this with no money to spend!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'll tell you what would happen. * A new guy would come in, and use the excuse "it's not my squad" for every defeat we suffered. * Said new guy would then start dismantling the squad to try to build his own. * Due to no funds being available, this would likely take a long time - 4 years? * If no success was realised during that transitional phase, the fans would put pressure on him to be sacked * If he were sacked, a new guy would come in (revert to first point, and so on). We need stability, not more transition. Clough has done well, and has built foundations (the hard part in football management in my humble opinion). He has and is making mistakes - but i think the hardest times of the transition are behind us, and think the next years with Clough from a solid foundation will be far more rewarding than another 5 year transition plan. However, if you were to ask me the same question about the board..... QFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just imagine, he leaves, goes to florest and, and..oh geez, doesn't bear thinking about.. Forest have already said that he isn't Qualified enough for them,ok for us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I note you went ahead and read the content anyway! might explain the bitter taste of all his posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'll tell you what would happen. * A new guy would come in, and use the excuse "it's not my squad" for every defeat we suffered. * Said new guy would then start dismantling the squad to try to build his own. * Due to no funds being available, this would likely take a long time - 4 years? * If no success was realised during that transitional phase, the fans would put pressure on him to be sacked * If he were sacked, a new guy would come in (revert to first point, and so on). We need stability, not more transition. Clough has done well, and has built foundations (the hard part in football management in my humble opinion). He has and is making mistakes - but i think the hardest times of the transition are behind us, and think the next years with Clough from a solid foundation will be far more rewarding than another 5 year transition plan. However, if you were to ask me the same question about the board..... "What do want? Stability. When do we want it? Yesterday!" I love threads like this. If we had got a lucky late winner vs Forest and the BBC stats had been correct vs Blackburn, then nothing like this would have appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 it cracks me up the happiness of some people at this mention, Clough to my knowledge, has never had a player slag him off after he has been sold, I havent read a harsh comment or piece of news about his reign here, ffs people you can only polish a turd so much, we do not have a squad capable of competing at the top of the league week in week out, live with it. as for some of the comments oh I wish he had got so and so or so and so, when shopping in the basement not everything is going to come out smelling of roses, and do some of you seriously believe that clough doesnt want better players, and maybe he does ask for them, last time I checked nobody on this forum was on the board, therefore nobody on this forum knows exactly who he is asking for. Just because he plays mr nice guy and the boards man to the media and the fans, doesnt mean he isnt asking them who he can sign can we not push the boat out. etc etc ffs the bloke is a fan of derby, lives in derby do you not think for one minute he wants whats best for derby!!! rant over but its one thing being a fan and passionate about your club, but it gets a joke when people only ever whinge and dont appear willing to ever get behind the team, I thought that was the whole point of being a fan, maybe Im confused and should go back and live in burton!! I mean seriously I bet there is more negativity on this site week in week out about derby then there is on forest site, No other forum that I have ever seen has so many people appear to be just waiting for failure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 apologies for the offensive joke comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Forest have already said that he isn't Qualified enough for them,ok for us though. And they got a qualified "belter" didn't they! I bet we're all so upset that McLeish isn't our Manager. Aren't we? Surely, if he's qualified, that means he must do well, doesn't it? Did I hear someone say "Not Really"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Won't make any difference to my feelings one way or the other. When Brian left, that was different - I hated Longson with a passion, and my heart leapt a few years later when he oh-so-nearly returned. Managers since Brian? Very little emotion from me when they left. I liked Tommy Docherty as a person - for much of his time at Derby he was a drinking mate because he absolutely loved sports forums and quizzes, and I used to arrange loads - but as a manager, he was a disaster. Since then, there was only one manager I desperately wanted out of the club immediately, and that was Paul Jewell. Not for the fact that he was an awful manager for us but for the news headlines that Sunday morning that dragged the club's name through the gutter for his foolishness several years before. Nigel Clough can stay for another decade and I will support him - but that's not the same as saying that I rate him. When he leaves, I will support the next man in the hot seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Won't make any difference to my feelings one way or the other. When Brian left, that was different - I hated Longson with a passion, and my heart leapt a few years later when he oh-so-nearly returned. Managers since Brian? Very little emotion from me when they left. I liked Tommy Docherty as a person - for much of his time at Derby he was a drinking mate because he absolutely loved sports forums and quizzes, and I used to arrange loads - but as a manager, he was a disaster. Since then, there was only one manager I desperately wanted out of the club immediately, and that was Paul Jewell. Not for the fact that he was an awful manager for us but for the news headlines that Sunday morning that dragged the club's name through the gutter for his foolishness several years before. Nigel Clough can stay for another decade and I will support him - but that's not the same as saying that I rate him. When he leaves, I will support the next man in the hot seat. Me too about Jewell. About all of it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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