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I finished The Gentlemen on Netflix last night

First two episodes were witty and take you back to the days of Lock, Stock and Snatch. Then it takes a bit of a drop and isn't really very funny or very good again. Bit of a letdown. Watchable only because the first two grab your interest 

So I thought I'd go back and check who directed the first two. Those are the only two by Guy Ritchie. Felt a bit short changed. 

1 hour ago, Comrade 86 said:

See the likes of you and I clearly don't get the nuances these clever folk do. I'd always thought that stopping people murdering women and children would be viewed as preferable to sitting around watching it happen while tugging my forelocks and pondering the right to return conundrum. Silly me! 

"You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies."

The clever people say the way to permanent ceasefire is through a bloody brutal military campaign and not through a temporary ceasefire being extended with a series of negotiations. 

I'm definitely stupid. Because I'd have thought if you want to make peace between Israel and Palestine that you'd work with whoever the major factions are. Even if they disgust you and can't be entirely trusted. Especially when Hamas and Fatah have been in talks. I'd call that an opportunity?

Apparently if you dictate to the Palestinians who should represent them while killing them that eventually you'll win them over. 

With Hezbollah and Iran full of serious threats I'm sure de-escalation is around the corner. 

Hamas can't lead a Palestinian State. But Likud can lead Israel. 

Territory is a stumbling block to those in Efrat, Ma'ale Adumim and the escalated settler plan Israel has come up with. 

The right of return is something Israeli Jews have a right to. It's for "Greater Israel". 

As Sunak and Co say. They want to see a permanent ceasefire and not a temporary pause. So continuing arms sales to Israel while cutting funding to UNWRA is unfortunately a necessary step to peace. You have to think of the bigger picture. 

If you have 5 mins spare, check out Parker calling out Dillian Whyte. Promise you won't regret it. 

8 hours ago, 1of4 said:

I'm sure most of the world want to see a peaceful end to this conflict.

While I've seen Israelis in their own country protesting and demanding that their government negotiate a ceasefire, which could lead to the removal of Prime Minister Netanyahu.   I've not seen Palestinians protesting and demanding Hamas negotiate a ceasefire.

Many of the Palestinian marches and flag waving that have taken place in the UK not only seem to be protesting against the actions of Israel, but due to the chanting of "from the river to the sea", the total destruction of Israel.

Apparently Hamas have refused to take part in any ceasefire negotiations until all their demands are met. Aren't these meeting supposedly for the two side to come to a compromise, not to rubber stamp the demands of one of the antagonists?

Are the  leaders of Hamas more concerned about the survival of their own organisation and their call for the total destruction of Israel than the safety and well-being of the Palestinian people?

There are claims that what Israel are doing in Gaza is genocide, but isn't what Hamas and their supporters are advocating for is, the total destruction of the state of Israel and it's people, an actual act of genocide?

 

Palestinians are not in the same position as Israelis. It's not a fair comparison.

"From the River to the Sea". Firstly it has two meanings. The one that means the end of Israel. One that means Palestinians will have the same rights and freedoms of the Israeli Jews. There's a Zionist version too which doesn't seem to concern people as much. 

Hamas spoke last week of the way they see this war going. In short they see it's going quite well. This is all necessary for the fight to free Palestine. Early in the year they were speaking with Fatah about mapping out a future for a state. They're not a partner for peace though and I'm not trying to paint them as noble freedom fighters. But I'm just trying to explain that they are fighting for a greater cause and the human cost will be whatever it takes to isolate and weaken Israel while legitimising themselves as leader of Palestinians. If it takes 30,000 or 300,000... it will be worth it (to them)

Yes, Hamas are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Somewhere in their charter it says something about Jews of the land can live with Arabs in peace again. But all immigrant Jews (Israeli Jews) must go (be killed?) There's nobody who should be defending/supporting Hamas.

But what's important is that Hamas represent something to the Palestinians who face an Apartheid Colonial aggressor. 

Was the 7th an act of genocide? Yes. But what are we going to do with this group? Well, Netenyahu is on a recruitment drive for them. 

You can't really ask Palestinians to oppose Hamas when the alternative is what? "Greater Israel"? 

I hate it when people say it's complex but then paint the picture of liberal democratic state Vs evil terrorist organisation. Which is the most common narrative. If it's complex it's because you have extremists on both sides. 

1 hour ago, Archied said:

So are you saying ( agreeing ) that the Israeli government have over a long term engineered hamas into power so they could/ would kill Israeli citizens therefore allowing them to carry out they’re foreign policy aims ?

So they could kill Israeli citizens? Not exactly. But the rest? Yes, absolutely. 

I'm not saying Israel opened the gates on the 7th like some suggest. I don't know or care what role, if any, Israel had in that massacre. Hamas are responsible for what their people did to those civilians. 

But that Netenyahu propped up Hamas, that he's wanted to divide Palestinian power, that Israel have used Hamas, that money found it's way from Israel into Gaza... Yes, I'm saying that.

His history is so despicable that it's shocking his nice suit and American accent was enough to sell him as a respectable leader. Him, Ben Gvir, Herzog, Smotrich etc .... These are not people that share our supposed values. Terrorists with ties on

1 hour ago, Archied said:

Always makes me smile seeing people who ridicule people as conspiracy theorists happily promote conspiracy theories 😂
next you’ll be telling us the White House put terrorists on planes for 9/11 so they could ride the wave of fear and anger to achieve its aims , what’s the lives of a few thousand home grown plebs here and there

It's not a conspiracy theory. 

Ben Whittaker, I don't think the way he fights and who he's fighting is investment for future opponents. 

Can't really explain what it is that don't sit right. It's not that the showing off is disrespectful. It's that it flatters his performance. I think he's done nothing more than you'd expect from an Olympic champion (silver?). Perhaps unfair but I'd be wanting to see him really finishing the job when he's ready rather than toying with his food.

Maybe unfair. Just remember Josh Kelly looked like a world beater with that kind of Olympic style of point scoring. Then you meet guys who will come through you and you have to be able to punish them.

Whittaker seems to be similar. Fur coat, no knickers type thing. 

Harsh for 7 from 7? It should be 7 quick KOs imo and if it's gone the distance then it should be to a durable come forward opponent and it's against those you'd want to see him working harder instead of running off dancing? 

Brilliant fight. 

Neither deserved to lose. So no real complaints with result 

Bravo gents

3 minutes ago, CWC1983 said:

He's in decent shape. 

Great fight so far. 

Very very good isn't it? Surprised by the whole card and I thought this would be a bit of a plodding pace. 

Ooh good start for Clarke. Nice jab!

Fights are better than I expected

16 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Had the misfortune of running into him before the gobby Forest supporting w*****.  Hope he takes a pounding. 

That's disappointing to hear. He always comes across as a really nice laid back bloke on TV. 

David, that's overwhelming. Can only wish you the very very best. 

I hope you can draw strength from each other and those around you. 

"They voted Hamas. Knowing what Hamas are

They allowed Hamas to carry out the coup

They didn't overthrow the government

They allowed Hamas to indoctrine an entire generation of sociopaths in Gaza

They then start a war" 

..... I don't even know where I'd start with that. They can't even decide on a version of history that supports their views. Is it in one of these versions of history that Poland started WW2 or is that yet another timeline? 

Goodbye Eylon Levy. Never has one man been exposed for so many lies in such a short space of time and yet shown such respect. The embodiment of the racist colonial Israeli governments. 

Check out his highlights. Quite the pied piper for apologists

Sauber have just completed their pit stop in the Australian GP. 

They've even had to change their Eurovision lyrics. 

Just a full Pride Park full of killed Palestinians now. Where half of them are kids. 

"Complex" though innit

Dear Lewis

Due to an admin error I'm afraid to tell you that the contract you signed with Ferrari has not been approved. There will be a full investigation and we will be in touch soon. We'll call you 

Fred Vasseur

3 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Think Chilwells went to the same shooting sessions as Martyn Waghorn 

Second one looked set up nicely and was under no pressure. 

I despise Brazil. 

18 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I think it's time for the "draw straws on who is punting max off this week" initiative.

OK, in any meaningful sense, that'd be a ridiculus suggestion but the FIA president would probably be up for it....

Alpine. Nothing to play for, first car Max will encounter this season most frequently and nobody would be surprised at an overly aggressive Ocon. 

The perfect crime

I can't believe people still talk about Ricciardo like there's still a potential world championship challenger there. I hate keep moaning about him for obvious reasons but they really need to stop pretending now. Him having that seat is perhaps the limit of his charisma and smile. 

It's like going on about Leeds United being a huge club. Let it go. No matter how many times deny it, time passes on potential. You're winning nothing. IF he got a seat alongside Verstappen next year it would be awful. 

Hamilton and Merc in general are really grating on me too. Stop saying it's fine margins. Put something together ffs. You're going backwards. Why are we so pleasantly chilled about it? 

Thank you Ferrari/ Sainz, Alonso and McLaren for making it watchable. Perez is actually turning up too which is nice. 

But 2024 is the year of BS'ing. Suddenly three tenths per lap slower is now "closer than ever" racing

2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

In other F1 news, Williams are taking Logan's not wrecked car and giving it to Alex Albon to replace Alex's car that he very much wrecked.

I think that's all but confirmation that keeping sergeant is pretty much a waste of petrol.

Humiliation for Sargeant 

It's only art if you have a pritt stick, some coloured card, match sticks, clay, 2 ice lolly sticks and asked an adult to help you with the cutting out.