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The problem is definitely that we're not crossing it enough  

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Collo

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Hourihane

I know they're planning in other ways and not solely the academy. I was just using it as an example. Nothing about Warnes signals long term planning at all. He hasn't improved any player (and therefore increased their sale value should we sell). He's churned through the squad and ground them down to playing a regressive, simplistic and short-termist method of playing football. I presume part of this 'future planning' involves attracting talented players here with high sell on potential. What about Warne would attract any player like that to us? How does that help with the long term planning and continuity of the club? Its not that I disagree with Warne in the context of future planning, I think he's actively a hinderance to it. If his short-termism does work and we go up,  I think it will just be one step forward, two back overall. You mention Warne as a representation of robustness and sustainability. He hasn't been either of those things. His transfers aren't sustainable and he's abandoned formations and systems multiple times over the last seasons.   
I disagree that just because something can't be changed, that means you can't express dislike for it. Of course we all want Derby to win every game no matter what. 
 

I know they're planning in other ways and not solely the academy. I was just using it as an example. Nothing about Warnes signals long term planning at all. He hasn't improved any player (and therefore increased their sale value should we sell). He's churned through the squad and ground them down to playing a regressive, simplistic and short-termist method of playing football. I presume part of this 'future planning' involves attracting talented players here with high sell on potential. What about Warne would attract any player like that to us? How does that help with the long term planning and continuity of the club? Its not that I disagree with Warne in the context of future planning, I think he's actively a hinderance to it. If his short-termism does work and we go up,  I think it will just be one step forward, two back overall. You mention Warne as a representation of robustness and sustainability. He hasn't been either of those things. His transfers aren't sustainable and he's abandoned formations and systems multiple times over the last seasons.   
I disagree that just because something can't be changed, that means you can't express dislike for it. Of course we all want Derby to win every game no matter what. 
 

I know they're planning in other ways and not solely the academy. I was just using it as an example. Nothing about Warnes signals long term planning at all. He hasn't improved any player (and therefore increased their sale value should we sell). He's churned through the squad and ground them down to playing a regressive, simplistic and short-termist method of playing football. I presume part of this 'future planning' involves attracting talented players here with high sell on potential. What about Warne would attract any player like that to us? How does that help with the long term planning and continuity of the club? Its not that I disagree with Warne in the context of future planning, I think he's actively a hinderance to it. If his short-termism does work and we go up,  I think it will just be one step forward, two back overall. You mention Warne as a representation of robustness and sustainability. He hasn't been either of those things. His transfers aren't sustainable and he's abandoned formations and systems multiple times over the last seasons.   
I disagree that just because something can't be changed, that means you can't express dislike for it. Of course we all want Derby to win every game no matter what. 
 

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Barks

But the plans and infrastructure being placed doesn't seem to align with what Warne is doing at all, and is arguably hindering it. How is it helpful that a progressive 4-3-3 style is imposed on every level of the academy, but the first team play such backwards football?
I personally don't want to wait 3 years to just see if it works out for Warne. Ask Sheffield Wednesday fans next season if it was worth getting promoted by any means last season. 
 

But the plans and infrastructure being placed doesn't seem to align with what Warne is doing at all, and is arguably hindering it. How is it helpful that a progressive 4-3-3 style is imposed on every level of the academy, but the first team play such backwards football?
I personally don't want to wait 3 years to just see if it works out for Warne. Ask Sheffield Wednesday fans next season if it was worth getting promoted by any means last season. 
 

The 'Klopp style of play' you're suggesting isn't even used by Klopp anymore. It's almost 5 years out of date. He's changed to 3-3-3-1 similar to most top Prem teams. I've seen little evidence Warnes style resembles old Klopp anyway

Yep extremely predictable, no sign of you for ages while we are winning drop a couple of points and hey presto😂

i actually watch a heck of a lot of football and not just derby. So i am very familiar with the levels required for prem, champ, L1
what would be very short sighted, would be thinking that this brand of football would get us to the prem

They might want to mix it up, but we know what warne will make them do. cross, cross, cross.

Do you even have a glass?
You're worrying about surviving a division we haven't even reached yet........

which is exactly where this squad of players should be anyway
Are you happy getting a lucky 0-0 draw against lincoln, nicking a last min winner v burton albion, being outplayed by peterborough at pride park, being knocked out cups by crewe and bradford ?
I know i have a glass half empty view on things, can't help it😅, but i just don't see how we will survive in the championship playing this brand of football. 

A weapon is only as powerful as the one who wields it. 

Grow up 

I wouldn't bother. It's obvious there's an intense dislike of Collins as a player but to give him a score of 2 when his next lowest is 6 is just making a mockery of this particular thread.

so goals vs xg for pens/tap ins he is underperforming then.
i'm sorry, but having an xg of 0.21 per 90 mins for the season as a striker is pathetic. Especially playing for one of, if not the best side in the league. If you take away the pens, he is considerably worse for xg than Waghorn, Washington, and John-Jules aswell. 

FFS give it a rest. This is the match ratings thread.

Sorry to bring it back xg again but he has an xg of 0.47 per 90 mins for this league season which is essentially what he should score with the best squad in the league putting things on a plate for him. That includes pens.
Yet he’s scored 0.62 per 90 mins against full strength teams.
Stats say he’s over-performing.
From footy stats.org btw.

4 pens actually as he missed one and tapped in the rebound
so slightly worse than one in 3 games, and considering we have arguably the best squad in the league creating chances for him, it's actually not that great

Apart from 1 header, what did he actually contribute? Seemed to just miss hit shots, misplace passes, struggle to control the ball, constantly offside, and just generally slow down / take all momentum out of the attacks