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19 minutes ago, tinman said:

Grow up

Wasn’t the most serious comment ever! Cheer up pal

19 minutes ago, Srg said:

We literally don't have a striker and barely a midfielder.

Fair point, sort of ignoring those as obviously will have incomings. We have two left backs, possibly three. Elder and Fozzy, maybe Sibley.

3 minutes ago, maydrakin said:

That was only for new contracts handed out.  Sibley’s contract was a legacy from the previous regime.

Fair enough, I presumed everyone was out of contract for some reason

Thought we were capped at 12k a couple of years ago? That was always mentioned for hourihane but never sibley 

13 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Defensively worse than Elder, Sibs and Fozzy. He'd be 4th choice (3rd if Sibs goes)

Serious? Fozzy may be better at cb but wing back I’d be amazed if better than Lowe. 
Elder never done much to convince me, looks a nervy footballer.

Think LB/LWB is our weakest area personally.

1 hour ago, MadAmster said:

So is Max Lowe 😉

 

Wouldn’t be against that either! Although he went on loan to Forest which is hard to look past

34 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Seem like good options from what I know of them.

Souttar be a great signing

5 hours ago, Comrade 86 said:

Brum, Brizzle, Boro, the Irons and now the Tractor Botherers too!?!

If true and if he goes, I reckon it's going to be for an 8 figure fee. It would be gutting to see him leave though but I'm doubtful that he would he leave for another Championship club. Ipswich would be more of a worry though.

Yeah I agree, Ipswich would be a tough move to turn down. Would expect to be a starter for them, good chance to impress in the prem this season. And worst case be a good signing for the championship 

1 hour ago, valakari said:

No, but Knight, Bird and then Sibley...how to dismantle our academy products one by one for bugger all..and leave us with Bradley, Fornah, Collins et al...

This is,what happens when you get a Div 1 specialist in...gets rid of the talented footballers, brings in athletes..and gets relegated against teams that can play football!

Don't get me wrong, he was obviously what Clowes saw as a way out of Div 1, and it worked..so brilliant business.

My caveat to this though, he is also not very good at keeping a side in the Championship...which worries me..i hope i am wrong!

Do you not think that all three of them have ultimately chosen to leave?

knight obviously was only willing to do one season in league one, bird has then chosen in January would rather be in the championship than us next season, now sibley is also choosing to go elsewhere.

warne might have played some part in that, and I’m not a huge fan. But ultimately he’s gotten us promoted, whereas the three academy players been with us through worst times of our history. Fair play to sibley if he leaves, will wish him well. Think it will actually help his career to be honest.

as for us, I just want to see us competitive on the pitch in the championship, let’s see how we do

5 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

Not doubting you...if we're being out bid on wages by Rotherham who will be playing in the league below us in front of 7k fans at Rotherham and managed by a champion pie eater then all I can say is...JESUS H CHRIST 🙄

We’re bidding outbid on wages for a particular player, there is a difference. Warne and club obviously have an idea of what sibley is worth salary wise. Rotherham seemingly value him higher.

sibley isn’t a keep at all costs player is he, is a player we’ve moulded into a wing back but otherwise struggled to force his way into team regularly.

Daniel jebbison out of contract at sheff utd, always looked decent

55 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said:

Not a chance it’s true but some “ITK” accounts on X linking us to Oliver skipp the spurs midfielder. At least it’s something to talk about or moan about.

He’s be a very good sigining, doesn’t look out of place in spurs side at times. Would this a bit out of our reach to be honest

10 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said:

Not even championship standard anymore. Just a hunch but I’d say he’ll end up at Wrexham. 

Not seen him play in a while but he’s not pulled up trees at reading, sheff weds etc! Shame

Jeff hendrick released today! Probably just sentimental but would love to see him in a derby shirt again

19 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

I recall an interview with Warne talking about Dajaune when he first went out on loan to Gateshead. He stated that; he will send staff to have him watched and maybe next season loan him out to a League Two club. I wonder now if that will happen, having made 22 appearances for Gateshead and scoring 10 goals and that record is even more remarkable when you consider is early appearances for that team were coming off the bench late in the 2nd half. He joined Gateshead on the 23rd January came off the bench in the 77th minute against Barnet (27th Jan) and continued to be a sub until the 9th March when he actually started a match. On top of his goal scoring he created goals for other players.

Yeah you’d hope Warne surely has a look at him in pre season training and a couple of the games! If thinks will benefit the first team then keep him here, if not then would imagine be loads of clubs wanting him in leagues one and two!

would hope he’d go to a better side in either division, gives you more opportunities to score goals which is what would help him.

maybe league two until Christmas, then league one rest of season

46 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

That’s why it’s called the cricket season 😎
That’s also why it’s raining ☔️ 

Was going to say! Watching that tonight looks unlikely 

Really is nothing happening at the minute is there! Thinking will be the case for a while yet.

just going to enjoy the euros and forget about derby for a while I think

Just now, Jubbs said:

That's why looking at minutes is important, he only played the equivalent of 10 games. Still not a great record, but 962 minutes vs 3690 mins is a huge difference.

I know, but still the fact he only got 962 minutes over that time isn’t ideal!

and throw in the zero goals 😬

16 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

The new Danny Graham!

Who actually turned into a decent player after being with us!

49 minutes ago, Jubbs said:

Good striker of the ball by the looks of it, which is an underrated quality. Would be a decent pick up. Although looks like he suffered a serious knee injury at the start of May.

Decent little thread:

 

Just looked and he scored 0 goals in 41 games for Reims in France! That feels impossible?? 

1 hour ago, Carnero said:

No Brett Angell mentioned either 

Think Kevin cooper played there for a while too.

Looking through West Brom’s retained list, they have a huge amount of players out of contract and been offered or released.

karlan grant is one that caught my eye though, returning to them from a loan spell. Think could be a good option for a loan, doubt would cost much at the end of it. 

Think he’d cost around £1m and have to be our main striker if signed.

10 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Attacking players by their very nature struggle to get into games at times, though? It applies to almost every single attacking player in the Football League and 80% of the Premier League - essentially anyone who isn't playing at an elite level. 

My frustration was the limited amount of time Sibley was afforded to his peers. It always felt like he needed to score or assist in every game without the threat of being dropped. It created a bad environment for him to develop IMO. It happens, of course, not always the best players at academy level continue the progression through to senior football. I really do feel like with Sibs we have really dropped the ball, obviously that's my subjective opinion, but above all else I want to see him progress and settle somewhere. I don't think that's at Rotherham (personally) but it's arguably not under Warne at Derby either.

Yeah but the amount they drop out of games varies. Mcgoldrick for example played as a 10 for us, was always involved and even if wasn’t you got the sense that he had a goal in him. The managers job was to get us in the play offs or promoted, extra time for sibley to find form wasn’t really an option.

Too often with sibley when having a poor game he’s the obvious sub. Invariably he’d then play well off the bench, get a start and not really back it up.

Same as you, i hope he finds a spot and shows his true potential. Agree it’s probably not at derby for Warne. It’s not just Warne not picking him though. Rooney barely ever started him when we had very few options.

the full back/wing back option from Warne might turn out to be the best thing for sibley.

1 hour ago, Ambitious said:

Much more productive? I’m not sure I would’ve used that term. Sibley is more impactful than Bird, albeit is more inconsistent but that’s probably due in large part to his lack of consistent game time in his correct position which we can all agree has been detrimental overall to his development.

I think purely from a commercial stand point that the opportunity to add a 22 year old who has a very decent attacking record in the Championship already on a free transfers, if we have offered him reduced terms, will ensure that he is at least a championship player next season. 

When playing CM or AM, transfermrkt has his record 112 games and 46 goal contributions at all levels. Obviously that takes into account academy games too, but still begs the question with that kind of record wasn’t he afforded more time at first team level to prove he can/can’t do it. 

For me, I just want to see him succeed at this point. I feel his development has been impacted significantly by the people at the club since Cocu left because watching him during his academy days it was very apparent just how special of a player he was and he showed that when he burst on the scene. I do think given time and opportunities that he can showcase his ability but feel that what he could’ve been is one of the biggest ‘what ifs’ that I’ll carry with me as a Derby fan. 

Of course he’s more productive than bird as you mention, he plays a lot further forward. He obviously has ability but do you agree he struggles to get involved in games at times?

the other issue I think is that when has a poor game is almost impossible to leave on as is like playing with ten.

i like him as a player, he gets shots off and has quality on the ball. But he’s not quick, not particularly strong either. Maybe this wasn’t highlighted as much in academy football but feel there is a large enough body of work from mens football to use that as the sample now.