Dangerous Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Big strike today involving the public sector.I agree that everybody has the right to strike but I cant agree with this one too much.Public sector workers are mainly highly paid and their pensions are the biggest in the country.Personally I think they need to get in the real world.There are plenty of private sector workers who fund these pensions whilst not having a pension of their own. Both my kids are off today which causes childcare problems.Teachers have a due care to the children they teach and striking also sets a bad example to the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I don't fully understand it all. But a lot of people have had they pay or hours dropped ie people working for Vauxhall and Toyota, why should they be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 While public sector pensions are better than private they are still poor, the private sector should demand better pensions. What is annoying a lot of people is that the contract they signed when going into the public sector is basically worthless, they will have to work longer, pay more and receive less in the majority of cases. Everyone should demand a better pension, the private sector pensions are appalling and something should be done about it. My folks put 100 pounds each a month in which isn't a small amount. The government are screwing people and are being unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's fashionable to go on strike or protest at the moment, get me in to Number 10 and I'd ban it. Go on strike you lose your job, protest you get shot. Problem with how I'm running this joint? feck off and go live in Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Bunch of jobsworths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 MrRam just happened to have today booked off as a holiday. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's fashionable to go on strike or protest at the moment, get me in to Number 10 and I'd ban it. Go on strike you lose your job, protest you get shot. Problem with how I'm running this joint? feck off and go live in Afghanistan. the reason why people are striking and protesting is because they are angry, the most fundamental right in a democracy to protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'm angry, our bin hasn't been emptied today because of these lazy feckers, should I go protest? will I get a refund on my council tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 they aren't being lazy, they are making a stand about their future. If you have a serious concern about pay etc of course you can protest with a group. We won't agree so i will agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've got 2 mates that work for the council, today they have spent it in Wetherspoons getting pissed, if they had serious concerns about what they get paid they would do what most people do....look for a new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Public sector workers seem incapable of realising the country is skint. We're all sipping champagne in the private sector.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 While public sector pensions are better than private they are still poor, the private sector should demand better pensions. What is annoying a lot of people is that the contract they signed when going into the public sector is basically worthless, they will have to work longer, pay more and receive less in the majority of cases. Everyone should demand a better pension, the private sector pensions are appalling and something should be done about it. My folks put 100 pounds each a month in which isn't a small amount. The government are screwing people and are being unreasonable. Absolutely YR, well said. The average public sector pension is a paltry £6,000 per annum. It's pathetic and if the Unions have a voice to stop this current government who cannot negotiate properly, good for them. In effect, what they want is for workers to pay more and work longer. How is that fair? I have an argument too with people who slate teachers - if you could see the astronomical work load they get, you'd be pissed off too. Holidays are not holidays either - their workload spills over continuously so don't even begin to think that their life is a bed of roses. It's simply not. There is contempt towards the public sector coming from private sector workers, it makes me wonder if those people deserve a public service at all. This government ought to take a long, hard look at itself and instead of robbing public sector workers, stop the outragious amounts of money the corrupt bankers get. The rich have no problem lining their own pockets and in the meantime, it's public joe on the street who suffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 what the government are trying to do is turn private sector workers vs public sector workers so we are divided instead of united. With the government again screwing with the pay of public sector workers until 2015 they are left in a difficult situation, take in effect a massive pay cut, and pay more for a smaller pension or go out on strike and annoy the majority of hard working private sector employees. If private and public sector workers were united we could force a real change in pay, ownership and pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramshankered Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Absolutely YR, well said. The average public sector pension is a paltry £6,000 per annum. It's pathetic and if the Unions have a voice to stop this current government who cannot negotiate properly, good for them. In effect, what they want is for workers to pay more and work longer. How is that fair? I have an argument too with people who slate teachers - if you could see the astronomical work load they get, you'd be pissed off too. Holidays are not holidays either - their workload spills over continuously so don't even begin to think that their life is a bed of roses. It's simply not. There is contempt towards the public sector coming from private sector workers, it makes me wonder if those people deserve a public service at all. This government ought to take a long, hard look at itself and instead of robbing public sector workers, stop the outragious amounts of money the corrupt bankers get. The rich have no problem lining their own pockets and in the meantime, it's public joe on the street who suffers. Spot on assessment - I can't stand the bleedin' tories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Wake up and smell the coffee, the public lot have finally realised what us private lot have had to deal with. Work till 68? Yes, so will we. Pensions srinking? Still be a bigger pension than mine. If you dunna like it, get a "better" job. You'll never find one. I passed a NHS picket line today. I only realised it was one as i saw a small A4 banner saying so and some plakards stood up. Where were the picketors? Xmas shopping i bet. If they feel so strongly, strike for a full year on strike pay like the miners did. We cant do without teachers etc can we? But, you're all half hearted in your protests. Get on with a full blown long term strike if you really feel strongly about it. Untill then, jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 boycie if they did that then everyone would be complaining that the kids weren't receiving education, they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 what the government are trying to do is turn private sector workers vs public sector workers so we are divided instead of united. With the government again screwing with the pay of public sector workers until 2015 they are left in a difficult situation, take in effect a massive pay cut, and pay more for a smaller pension or go out on strike and annoy the majority of hard working private sector employees. If private and public sector workers were united we could force a real change in pay, ownership and pensions. Don't think united unions would ever work YR sadly, there would be too much in fighting - but the fact remains people have got to make a stand whether they be public or private workers if they feel aggrieved. It's a democratic society after all. Now the government are changing the laws so it will be harder to strike. Great idea. There will never be a government that likes unions and is prepared to listen. Half of the Downing Street staff were striking too today, which I find amusing. Poor Cameron, he'd have had to clean his own bog and make his own tea. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 you never know LR, got to be worth a go what do we have now? a coalition ready to crap on the working man, woman and child so they can drag us deeper into debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Serious amount of brush tarring going on in this thread. I work in the NHS, earn a very small amount of money, a lot less than I could if I had the same job in the Private Sector. Did I feel compelled to strike today? No, because by the time i'm at a pensionable age all the rules will have changed again, several times and in any case I get paid to do my job, if I don't like the deal i'm getting, i'll look for another one. Do I agree with the strikers? No, because they should be damn grateful to have any job at all at the present, however they are only standing up for what is best for them - just like the students were earlier this year, just like the miners were all those years ago, so cut the name calling and stereotyping it just makes you look stupid and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Half of the Downing Street staff were striking too today, which I find amusing. Poor Cameron, he'd have had to clean his own bog and make his own tea. Shame. No. He's got Nick Clegg for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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