StaffsRam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 A friendly in Jan ? [size=3]The European Super Cup match was between the 1978/79 winners of the European Cup, Nottingham Forest, and European Cup-Winners' Cup, Barcelona[/size] [size=3]Face it mate Forest beat the best teams in Europe[/size] [size=3]WE beat the european cup holders Liverpoo over two legs[/size] [size=3]Then went on after winning the biggest prize in Europe to beat Barcelona in a playoff between champions of Europe[/size] [size=3]Liverpool & Barcelona in Europe [/size] [size=3]Forest did it at the higest level & take there place in history as great champions[/size] Barcelona weren't even one of the top three Spanish sides in that era. This was at a time when Real Madrid dominated the Spanish league. Did you play them? Liverpool - European Cup holders, fresh from beating another glorified European pub team, Bruges. We played Benfica, Juventus and Real Madrid. Forest probably had the easiest route to a final in European Cup history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ( Red ) Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Barcelona weren't even one of the top three Spanish sides in that era. This was at a time when Real Madrid dominated the Spanish league. Did you play them? Liverpool - European Cup holders, fresh from beating another glorified European pub team, Bruges. We played Benfica, Juventus and Real Madrid. Forest probably had the easiest route to a final in European Cup history. Which time ? You see we went for two years beating the best teams from that era. Forest did what Derby could not. Forest won,then went on to win again. Only a handful of teams have every won the European cup more than once even less have won it back to back. Forest also went to Wembley 3 times in a row during that period winning the cup twice & played in the UEFA super cup final twice ( winning it once ) They also came runners up in the World Club Championship. While posting a 42 game unbeaten run in the league. You can try to belittle the great mans achievement if you want. But the facts say your wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Which time ? You see we went for two years beating the best teams from that era. Forest did what Derby could not. Forest won,then went on to win again. Only a handful of teams have every won the European cup more than once even less have won it back to back. Forest also went to Wembley 3 times in a row during that period winning the cup twice & played in the UEFA super cup final twice ( winning it once ) They also came runners up in the World Club Championship. While posting a 42 game unbeaten run in the league. You can try to belittle the great mans achievement if you want. But the facts say your wrong ! It was a great time for you, it was also a great time for English clubs dominating Europe, Liverpool and Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 yeah we got lucky 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> dearie me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 yeah we got lucky 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> dearie me. you certainly did, thank Sam Longson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Which time ? You see we went for two years beating the best teams from that era. Forest did what Derby could not. Forest won,then went on to win again. Only a handful of teams have every won the European cup more than once even less have won it back to back. Forest also went to Wembley 3 times in a row during that period winning the cup twice & played in the UEFA super cup final twice ( winning it once ) They also came runners up in the World Club Championship. While posting a 42 game unbeaten run in the league. You can try to belittle the great mans achievement if you want. But the facts say your wrong ! Yes, the league, everything else pales into insignificance against the league. Far harder to win over a 42 game season than a tin pot where you can avoid the best sides in Europe through the luck of the draw. Of course we've won the league TWICE. Anyone can fluke it once, as you proved. Only great sides win it more than ONCE. We knew that, that's why we concentrated on a second league title over a European jolly boys. Of course, by the time Brian got to Forest, winning the league was old hat - been done already. The great man knew the importance of the league over Europe, that's why his league winner's medal with Derby was his most treasured possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ( Red ) Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Yes, the league, everything else pales into insignificance against the league. Far harder to win over a 42 game season than a tin pot where you can avoid the best sides in Europe through the luck of the draw. Of course we've won the league TWICE. Anyone can fluke it once, as you proved. Only great sides win it more than ONCE. We knew that, that's why we concentrated on a second league title over a European jolly boys. Of course, by the time Brian got to Forest, winning the league was old hat - been done already. The great man knew the importance of the league over Europe, that's why his league winner's medal with Derby was his most treasured possession. Clough has always said his 42 game unbeaten run was his greatest achievement in fooball. But alas for Forest & Derby we are not up there with the front runners anymore. Will ethier team make it back to the prem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ( Red ) Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 It was a great time for you, it was also a great time for English clubs dominating Europe, Liverpool and Villa I wonder if teams from England will dominate again ? Or are the Spanish out of reach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I wonder if teams from England will dominate again ? Or are the Spanish out of reach ? They are never out of reach, bet other countries didn't think that when dominated late 70's early 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Clough has always said his 42 game unbeaten run was his greatest achievement in fooball. But alas for Forest & Derby we are not up there with the front runners anymore. Will ethier team make it back to the prem ? Not anytime soon I doubt. Part of the reason why modern football is sh1te - it's all geared towards keeping the big teams big, and the same few clubs challenging for honours year in, year out. The likes of Derby, Forest, even Leeds, winning the league again, almost non-existent. I wonder if teams from England will dominate again ? Or are the Spanish out of reach ? English and Spanish sides will dominate for years to come. Italy isn't what it once was, and everyone else is far, far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I hate them with every molecule of my fit, svelt, 40 year old tanned body, BUT one thing you cannot deny is they were the best team in Europe for two whole seasons. Yes, the might only have had to beat a team of part time pig farmers from Sweden to actually WIN it, but to get there they beat some great sides..... didn't they beat Liverpool 8i can't be bothered to google it to find out, it makes me sick) and Munchangladbach. And don't forget that this was the time that only the champions got in it and more importantly you lost on game and you were out of it... not like the crap competetion now where you can finish 4th in the league, lose 20 games in the competetion AND still win it... having said all that.....scummy club.....scummy fans....etc etc... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I hear the Curiosity rover successfully landed on a dead red void with no atmosphere a couple of hours ago.. We'll be expecting the first pictures of the City Ground shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I hate them with every molecule of my fit, svelt, 40 year old tanned body, BUT one thing you cannot deny is they were the best team in Europe for two whole seasons. Yes, the might only have had to beat a team of part time pig farmers from Sweden to actually WIN it, but to get there they beat some great sides..... didn't they beat Liverpool 8i can't be bothered to google it to find out, it makes me sick) and Munchangladbach. And don't forget that this was the time that only the champions got in it and more importantly you lost on game and you were out of it... not like the crap competetion now where you can finish 4th in the league, lose 20 games in the competetion AND still win it... having said all that.....scummy club.....scummy fans....etc etc... :-) You are spoiling my fun. You know how mardy they get when we belittle the tin cups. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You can tell this is a Derbyshire based forum, the stink of bullshit (or cowshit) is overpowering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You can tell this is a Derbyshire based forum, the stink of bullshit (or cowshit) is overpowering! yeah, the clue is in the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Red_Dawn, you seem fairly levelled - but in your opinion, if you was going to spend that sort of money on a player, would a striker be the first position you would look to? I only say this because, again, looking at the squad you've got central midfielders and strikers falling out the ground and into the trent, yet (if cox signs) that will mean 3 of your signings are in them positions. Miller, Blackstock, Findley, Tudgay, Derbyshire, and McGoldrick (6 strikers), Cox will make it 7. Gillett, Harding, Moussi, Cohen, Mcgugan, Greening, Guedioura and Majewski (7 central midfielders) which is all well and good, but you only have a squad of 22 at the minute and 13 of them cover 4 positions on the pitch 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 We need another central defender, a couple of wingers and a striker. CB is the main priority though. Not sure of Halford is going to be good enough to play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 We need another central defender, a couple of wingers and a striker. CB is the main priority though. Not sure of Halford is going to be good enough to play there. I don't know - I would say, from outside looking in... in this order a centre back - a leader, an established consistent centre back right midfielder - with pace, because reid has none. centre back - another one, this time less apparent perhaps as back up. left back - you have one left back, a couple is needed for a 46 game season goalkeeper - is darlow good enough back up? i don't know but 2 keepers is still short. left mid - if andy reid plays every game this season i'll eat my own ****. right mid - to back up the first one. and then you can sign a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You can tell this is a Derbyshire based forum, the stink of bullshit (or cowshit) is overpowering! I bet there are loads of fair minded views about Derby on LTLF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 And don't forget that this was the time that only the champions got in it and more importantly you lost on game and you were out of it... not like the crap competetion now where you can finish 4th in the league, lose 20 games in the competetion AND still win it... having said all that.....scummy club.....scummy fans....etc etc... :-) Ah, but this is the very reason that, back then, it was possible to get a kind draw, catch a few good teams on an off day, and fluke your way through to the final. Forest would have been found out if they had had to contend a group stage. Also, and I'm not entirely sure of this, being merely a 30 year old tanned svelte bod, it's all before my time, but based on the fact that FOREST ONLY WON ONE CHAMPIONSHIP (don't mean to shout, but I wanted to make sure they heard), they must have been able to qualify without having to win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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