Woodley Ram Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 The latest accounts are now being aired with Bristol City declaring having losses of £48.5m over the last two years (far worse than us by the way) who will follow, we have already seen Reading with a bigger loss for the previous year. More will follow but really how much can be written off due to covid and how can the EFL be even handed in their points deduction. This will all arrive too late for us but those such as Bristol City should receive appropriate penalties. Those that called for our blood seem to have a different take when they themselves are over the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Well we - the administrators accepted a points deduction without breaking any rules so who knows what the heck will happen apart from Middlesbrough being given promotion because they threatened to sue the EFL if they didn’t get it. Edited December 29, 2021 by Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I hope so….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I really hope not for the fans of other clubs sake... GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, bimmerman said: I really hope not for the fans of other clubs sake... What ? So us ? fans have to pay the price but not other fans whose owners have committed similar wrong doings? Don’t understand this at all. Why should we be the only club to face a punishment ? sage, Tamworthram, Ram1988 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) The deal the administrators were railroaded into cutting with the EFL considered a future 3 point deduction for the 19/20 20/21 Covid affected accounts. So in order to be consistent they should be penalising other clubs and not taking Covid into consideration. Half the league will get points deductions by doing this although they will probably be applied next season which doesn’t help us, if they are even applied at all. If Mel hadnt absconded and we weren’t over a barrel, then I’d have expected us to push for a lower points deduction. Be interesting to see what happens with the other clubs but I have a feeling we will feel even more victimised, but we’re Derby County biggest cheats in the history of football so it’s justified!! Edited December 29, 2021 by BramcoteRam84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: What ? So us ? fans have to pay the price but not other fans whose owners have committed similar wrong doings? Don’t understand this at all. Why should we be the only club to face a punishment ? Surely he meant he hopes that clubs won’t be in that position (for the sake of the fans), not that they shouldn’t be similarly sanctioned If they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Surely he meant he hopes that clubs won’t be in that position (for the sake of the fans), not that they shouldn’t be similarly sanctioned If they are? Is that right Bimmerman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Why should we be punisher and other clubs get away with it. If they get hit with a minus 9 it will certainly put us in a better position too. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 It’s the ultimate wet dream for Gibbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: It’s the ultimate wet dream for Gibbo. Does he hate Brizzle too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Is that right Bimmerman ? Pretty much We all know we're ducked,but the system is completely broken with ffp or p and s or whatever it's called now. The only people who ultimately are let down by it are the fans of clubs who are the end 'customer'. Hopefully the efl sort this out and no other clubs fans have to suffer what we are at the moment because of a broken system(I'm not ignoring the bad owner part in uncle Mel,that's another conversation). Long for the day everyone can just argue about who the best striker is again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 10 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: The deal the administrators were railroaded into cutting with the EFL considered a future 3 point deduction for the 19/20 20/21 Covid affected accounts. So in order to be consistent they should be penalising other clubs and not taking Covid into consideration. Half the league will get points deductions by doing this although they will probably be applied next season which doesn’t help us, if they are even applied at all. If Mel hadnt absconded and we weren’t over a barrel, then I’d have expected us to push for a lower points deduction. Be interesting to see what happens with the other clubs but I have a feeling we will feel even more victimised, but we’re Derby County biggest cheats in the history of football so it’s justified!! Perhaps it’s a question for the administrators. Was a deduction in FFP overspending given due to loss of earnings from COVID and if so how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 hours ago, GlastoEls said: Surely he meant he hopes that clubs won’t be in that position (for the sake of the fans), not that they shouldn’t be similarly sanctioned If they are? That ship has sailed though, Reading are already on board, Bristol City are packing their bags as we speak, who knows which club will be next. I do agree with the the tone of your and @bimmerman's comments though - You still those two village idiots on OTIB defending BC and pointing out contrived differences between their situation and ours but fundamentally (and I've said this many times) each of our clubs in this damned league are not the enemies here, just rivals. The construct of our football pyramid is entirely flawed and as long as it stays that way, these things will keep on happening. I don't believe there is a single club without parachute payments that has been promoted in recent years without spending tens of millions more than they earned..... GlastoEls and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, bimmerman said: Pretty much We all know we're ducked,but the system is completely broken with ffp or p and s or whatever it's called now. The only people who ultimately are let down by it are the fans of clubs who are the end 'customer'. Hopefully the efl sort this out and no other clubs fans have to suffer what we are at the moment because of a broken system(I'm not ignoring the bad owner part in uncle Mel,that's another conversation). Long for the day everyone can just argue about who the best striker is again But you still want point deductions if they have broken the rules, just like us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ShoreRam said: That ship has sailed though, Reading are already on board, Bristol City are packing their bags as we speak, who knows which club will be next. I do agree with the the tone of your and @bimmerman's comments though - You still those two village idiots on OTIB defending BC and pointing out contrived differences between their situation and ours but fundamentally (and I've said this many times) each of our clubs in this damned league are not the enemies here, just rivals. The construct of our football pyramid is entirely flawed and as long as it stays that way, these things will keep on happening. I don't believe there is a single club without parachute payments that has been promoted in recent years without spending tens of millions more than they earned..... A bit late if the ship has already sailed. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Mods Can we merge this with the other thread please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briz Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Woodley Ram said: The latest accounts are now being aired with Bristol City declaring having losses of £48.5m over the last two years (far worse than us by the way) who will follow, we have already seen Reading with a bigger loss for the previous year. More will follow but really how much can be written off due to covid and how can the EFL be even handed in their points deduction. This will all arrive too late for us but those such as Bristol City should receive appropriate penalties. Those that called for our blood seem to have a different take when they themselves are over the limit. Bristol City will not fail FFP Read Below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Briz said: Bristol City will not fail FFP Read Below: As long as the EFL accept the COVID numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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