RamNut Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 But who signed their autograph as a big black square? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, loweman2 said: I have consulted the oracle and I think that you are looking at the 1933/34 season when most of those names formed the Derby County “squad”, a few of them went on to win the FA cup in 45/46, steve bloomer is a bonus added extra, he cemented his part of Derby folklore when he returned at the end of his career to become a general assistant at the BBG helping out with coaching but also painting the stands and carrying out general chores , he died in April 1938. Jack bowers was top scorer with 37 goals in the 33/34 season, Tommy Cooper (not that one) captained England three times that season, Jack bowers scored in six consecutive league games, still the only player to do this twice for Derby, and the double decker stand at the osmaston end opened for the first time. Can you give me the title of that reference book please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Anon said: Can you give me the title of that reference book please? Derby County the complete record, before buying a new one look on ebay can often pick one up for tenner or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, RamNut said: But who signed their autograph as a big black square? I don't know, maybe some one with a fat pen? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, loweman2 said: I have consulted the oracle and I think that you are looking at the 1933/34 season when most of those names formed the Derby County “squad”, a few of them went on to win the FA cup in 45/46, steve bloomer is a bonus added extra, he cemented his part of Derby folklore when he returned at the end of his career to become a general assistant at the BBG helping out with coaching but also painting the stands and carrying out general chores , he died in April 1938. Jack bowers was top scorer with 37 goals in the 33/34 season, Tommy Cooper (not that one) captained England three times that season, Jack bowers scored in six consecutive league games, still the only player to do this twice for Derby, and the double decker stand at the osmaston end opened for the first time. as for value the bloomer one could go for £70/£100, a lot of people cut them out and sell them as single autographs, not sure of the value of the whole page, at an auction if you had two bidders who wanted it perhaps £200. but with 27 signatures and one being steve bloomer and one being the captain who lifted the FA cup and sammy crooks cutting them up and selling singularly could be an option ? I don't think I would be able to cut them up an sell them separately even if I wanted to because the signatures are too close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, loweman2 said: That is an early 1970s Brian Clough signature he changed it slightly as he got older, is there a Peter Taylor one with it ? The four pics has all the signatures that I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, loweman2 said: Derby County the complete record, before buying a new one look on ebay can often pick one up for tenner or less is there a constantly updated edition of that book, or even an online one? I seem to think i had it upto 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, jagerbob said: is there a constantly updated edition of that book, or even an online one? I seem to think i had it upto 1984 there have been three versions so far, the last one being in 2006, its content is updated along with the matches of course, unfortunately we still get relegated to division to division three at the end of the 83/84 season in every edition !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 make that 1988 to include the season when Saunders Wright and Shilton arrived. To be honest in 1984 i had never sen the rams play, let alone bought a book on them This looks like the fella . https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Derby-County-A-Complete-Record-1884-1988-by-Gerald-Mortimer-Hardback-1988/88489304?iid=202029189911&chn=ps&adgroupid=50725159343&rlsatarget=pla-412701967651&abcId=1133926&adtype=pla&merchantid=7274974&poi=&googleloc=9046638&device=c&campaignid=1058609949&crdt=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, HarryUK1234 said: I don't think I would be able to cut them up an sell them separately even if I wanted to because the signatures are too close you would be surprised, this one has been on ebay for a while and i doubt its authenticity https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steve-Bloomer-1938-Derby-County-Middlesbrough-England-signed-Autograph/253669677290?hash=item3b0fe418ea:g:I~wAAOSwWflZ7~db here are some from a similar era to yours, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DERBY-COUNTY-1934-1935-VERY-RARE-ORIGINAL-HAND-SIGNED-BOOK-PAGE-12-X-SIGNATURES/292362959307?hash=item441230b9cb:g:kAAAAOSwcj1aKp18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, jagerbob said: make that 1988 to include the season when Saunders Wright and Shilton arrived. To be honest in 1984 i had never sen the rams play, let alone bought a book on them This looks like the fella . https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Derby-County-A-Complete-Record-1884-1988-by-Gerald-Mortimer-Hardback-1988/88489304?iid=202029189911&chn=ps&adgroupid=50725159343&rlsatarget=pla-412701967651&abcId=1133926&adtype=pla&merchantid=7274974&poi=&googleloc=9046638&device=c&campaignid=1058609949&crdt=0 this is the last version, deffo worth buying https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Derby-County-The-Complete-Record-by-Gerald-Mortimer-Hardback-2006-Breedon-Books/183240677872?hash=item2aa9fed9f0:g:e3AAAOSwzkRa1zut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, loweman2 said: you would be surprised, this one has been on ebay for a while and i doubt its authenticity https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steve-Bloomer-1938-Derby-County-Middlesbrough-England-signed-Autograph/253669677290?hash=item3b0fe418ea:g:I~wAAOSwWflZ7~db here are some from a similar era to yours, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DERBY-COUNTY-1934-1935-VERY-RARE-ORIGINAL-HAND-SIGNED-BOOK-PAGE-12-X-SIGNATURES/292362959307?hash=item441230b9cb:g:kAAAAOSwcj1aKp18 Awesome thank you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 looks like the Dixie dean one would be worth a few quid, I cant believe on the other Aldershot card it has been crossed out https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Everton-FC-1928-Menu-card-Signed-By-Dixie-Dean-plus-7-team-AFTAL-COA-Autograph/123179516182?hash=item1cae124116:g:Q5MAAOSwPDBaEZkH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryUK1234 said: I don't think I would be able to cut them up an sell them separately even if I wanted to because the signatures are too close Don't cut them up. I think it would ruin it and make them virtually worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Don't cut them up. I think it would ruin it and make them virtually worthless. Yeah, I don't think I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Anon said: Can you give me the title of that reference book please? abebooks.co.uk is good source of books, even really obscure ones. https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?cm_sp=SearchF-_-NullResults-_-Results&tn=derby+county+the+complete+record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, RamNut said: Don't cut them up. I think it would ruin it and make them virtually worthless. 12 minutes ago, HarryUK1234 said: Yeah, I don't think I will You could/should seek the advice of an auctioneer. Charles Hanson is the obvious choice. Proud Derbyshire man, Derbyshire based,TV celebrity antiques expert, super enthusiastic (to the point of eccentricity) and all-round thoroughly good egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryUK1234 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Phoenix said: You could/should seek the advice of an auctioneer. Charles Hanson is the obvious choice. Proud Derbyshire man, Derbyshire based,TV celebrity antiques expert, super enthusiastic (to the point of eccentricity) and all-round thoroughly good egg. I'm going to keep them as I like to collect Derby stuff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinder Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I’m surprised none of the players signed off with a smiley face and their squad number!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 15 hours ago, needles said: https://www.11v11.com/matches/derby-county-v-aldershot-18-february-1933-208285/ vs Aldershot...this game? But it says Ardershot. I think it means that the people who had signed on the second page had arder shots than those on the first page. And why is Dixie Dean's (Di Dean) on two different lists but seemingly crossed out on the first list? This is strikingly similar to the Da Vinci Code. Hopefully nobody will get murdered or start engaging in self flagellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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