Doodle Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 32 minutes ago, David said: Vydra v Bamford, the stats http://the72.co.uk/111317/whod-produce-for-leeds-united-vydra-vs-bamford/ That’s why I want to keep Vydra. 28% of his shots end up in the net. That’s very good at any level, brilliant in the championship. That’s in a side last season which wasn’t exactly creative. Just imagine the damage he will do this season in a fast, creative, attacking team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Doodle said: That’s why I want to keep Vydra. 28% of his shots end up in the net. That’s very good at any level, brilliant in the championship. That’s in a side last season which wasn’t exactly creative. Just imagine the damage he will do this season in a fast, creative, attacking team. That's true, but he's only this effective when playing as a number 10, this is fact. Look at his stats when he's played as a cf. It's blindingly obvious that Lampard isn't going to play the formation that suits vydra, so why keep him?. I'd sooner have 4-5 players who'll score 8-10 goals each than one that scores 20. It's also proven that if things don't go his way, he sulks, playing him as a cf, he'll have a face like a smacked arse most of the time as it's not his natural position. Do we want that, really?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Even if he should stay, when will we see him. he has had no pre season matches, and not seen him in any training pictures.( I know, weve been told injuries ?? yeah right!!), and prob no idea of how JT wants the team to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, BodminRam said: Even if he should stay, when will we see him. he has had no pre season matches, and not seen him in any training pictures.( I know, weve been told injuries ?? yeah right!!), and prob no idea of how JT wants the team to play John Terry ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: That's true, but he's only this effective when playing as a number 10, this is fact. Look at his stats when he's played as a cf. It's blindingly obvious that Lampard isn't going to play the formation that suits vydra, so why keep him?. I'd sooner have 4-5 players who'll score 8-10 goals each than one that scores 20. It's also proven that if things don't go his way, he sulks, playing him as a cf, he'll have a face like a smacked arse most of the time as it's not his natural position. Do we want that, really?. I think you underestimate him, and frank for that matter. He was sulking when left out of the team and I don’t blame him. He should have been the first name on the team sheet every week. If he stays I expect him to show how good he is at this level. Frank won’t play him at CF and expect him to stay there. He will interact with Wilson Lawrence, Mount and we will almost play without a CF ala Barcelona. Just fast fluid attacking football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, EraniosSocks said: John Terry ? ? Have you not heard then LOL ooops FL they are both fantastic names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Doodle said: I think you underestimate him, and frank for that matter. He was sulking when left out of the team and I don’t blame him. He should have been the first name on the team sheet every week. If he stays I expect him to show how good he is at this level. Frank won’t play him at CF and expect him to stay there. He will interact with Wilson Lawrence, Mount and we will almost play without a CF ala Barcelona. Just fast fluid attacking football you could be right, but looking at his stats playing as a cf/winger isn't good. 5 goals in 33 games in his 1st season wasn't good. his season at reading also 3 in 31 and wba 3 in 23. He scores goals for fun in the 10 role but were not playing that way so whats the point in having an 11m asset sitting on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, t'oldu said: DT now saying they have been told Vydra has NOT failed a medical. The two clubs are still negotiating the details of payment for the transfer . There has not as yet been a medical !! It could also be that Vydra and Leeds are ok about personal terms ?? Would seem the buck stops elswhere.................................... Maybe apologies are due to Mr.V...... So we havent agreed a fee? All this stuff about Vyds personal terms failing a medical is balls. Looks like theres still along way to go if Leeds want to get this one over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doodle Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, mwram1973 said: you could be right, but looking at his stats playing as a cf/winger isn't good. 5 goals in 33 games in his 1st season wasn't good. his season at reading also 3 in 31 and wba 3 in 23. He scores goals for fun in the 10 role but were not playing that way so whats the point in having an 11m asset sitting on the bench? If he stays i can see us playing a 3/5/2 more often than 4/3/3. Especially at home against weaker teams. He excels in this formation as we saw in the last few games of last season. Apart from the very last one when he was dropped!!! I think Frank is too clever to shoehorn him into the side as a winger or CF where as you correctly point out, he isn’t great. Him with Marriott or Jerome in front of him with Wilson, Lawrence Mount providing width, speed and more importantly, service. Will tear poor teams apart. Something we have failed to do for too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mckram said: That’s cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: That’s cheap Would’ve been better than Waghorn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sparkle said: That’s cheap Quick Frank lets really rock LUFCs world ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sparkle said: That’s cheap Maybe I’m being unfair but I don’t see him as a 20 goal striker. He had a good spell at Boro after his season with us but since then has been pretty average so maybe it’s a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Can you see him contributing to a high press .....no Has he got any pace....no He can shoot from distance but we've got TL for that. Vydra will be going and Waghorn will be signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Vydra isat Derby watching today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Fairly obvious he'd rather stay here isn't it? Shame it's going down like this really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: Fairly obvious he'd rather stay here isn't it? Shame it's going down like this really. Probably thinks he could score a shed load after watching us play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 borough will go for Waghorn now........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Nixon is suggesting Derby will be rather angry with Vydra if his high demands cause the Leeds move to fall through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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